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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.org>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: When is 2.2R due out?
Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 16:44:49 -0700
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To: Louis Epstein <le@put.com>

Louis Epstein wrote:
> I run an ISP and would not welcome anything causing downtime,so I am
> more interested in what is stable.But isn't something fully stable
> when it reaches a RELEASE version?My point is that the expected dates

Well, it's as stable as we knew how to make it at the time of the
release, yes.  However, consider what happens afterwards when we find
and fix n number of post-release bugs.  In the past, we had "the
patchkit" which sort of broke down under its own weight.  In the
present, we have the -stable branch.  My point is that we'll always need
a -stable branch of some sort and those running the latest release will
always want to keep an eye on it for in-time bug fixes.

> of 2.1.1R and 2.2R seem to be within a few months of each other.

And those dates aren't really important (they could be on the same *day*
in our scenario) since each release is targetted at a different market.
Yes, we'll certainly do our very best to make 2.2-RELEASE as stable as
we can make it, and that release won't happen until the confidence level
in 2.2 is high, but there will still remain a large number of people who
don't *want* to upgrade to the first "dot-zero" release of 2.2, no
matter how stable we say it is.  They'll prefer to hang back with 2.1.x
until 2.2 has been out for awhile and has had substantial bug fixes of
its own in place.  At that stage, I would also hope that 2.1-stable will
essentially die out with 2.1.x (where x = 2 or 3) as a capstone and
people will have enough confidence in 2.2.x (where x will be 1 or 2) to
make the shift.


> Are you in fact expecting to maintain separate release versions of both
> 2.1.x and 2.2.x branches with only the former being stable?Or will 2.2
> be the stable branch when its release version comes out?

That was my plan before, but I've since reconsidered whether it would be
wise to shift -stable over to 2.2 that soon.  I would prefer to shift
-stable over ONLY after I'm really very very confident that all the
features of 2.2 work properly and have been shaken out in release form.

-- 
- Jordan Hubbard
  President, FreeBSD Project