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From: michael@memra.com (Michael Dillon)
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Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX)
Date: 3 May 1996 23:33:21 -0700
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In article <4md20d$c2@solaria.cc.gatech.edu>,
Byron A Jeff <byron@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:

>>> word 6 to do the conversion is self defeating. I don't have Windows nor
>>> Word 6 but I get quite a few Word 6 attachments. What do I do then?

>>If somebody sends you a Word 6 attachment, bounce it right back where
>>it came from and ask them to save it as ASCII or RTF for you instead.

Nah, just use save it to disk and use "less" to read it. Ignore the
warning about a binary file. Guess what, you will see all the text that
the person *INTENDED* you to see plus some other stuff they may not have
intended like scraps of previous versions and previous filenames that the
document had.

I got an Non-Disclosure Agreement in Word 6 format to sign because I was
being considered to do a project. In the file I saw 4 other filenames that
all were similarily constructed with people's surnames and a few other
letters. This let me know three of the other people being considered to do
the project and helped me market my skills in the best light by
comparing with what I knew of them.

One disadvantage is that it may be unclear about whether a block of text
is a deleted scrap or the current document. But since the same thing would
be seen by a Word 2.0 user, I just emailled back for confirmation, said I
was using Word 2.0 and pointed out that this was actually a security risk
and they were better off cutting and pasting the document into Eudora.
They thanked me. And I did win out over the competing analysts.

>With the response "Well everyone else I know can read my Word 6 attachments
>as is? Why can't you? I was thinking about using FreeBSD/Linux, but if
>it can't even read a simple Word file, why should I?"

Anybody who thinks a Word file is simple should stay far away from freeBSD
and Linux.

>I'm not discussing practical issues here. I'm talking about vision. To have
>any hope of competing in the desktop market, there must be a bridge 
>between where they (being the users of Microsoft products) are and where
>you want them to be. That bridge doesn't exist. And each and every time
>you tell them to go back to Microsoft to do the most simple task, it slaps
>them in the face with "Free Unixes can't do the job". 

There are lots of people who use 1% of the capability of their MS
software. Very soon we will be able to put together a FreeUNIX system that
can do the job they need quite well.

>That should be enough of a problem to justify the creation of a Word 6 to
>anything else converter that runs on a Free Unix platform.

A converter, yes. A WP no. If someone starts work on a Word 6 to ASCII or
Word 6 to HTML converter right now, people could modify it in the future
to do Word 6 to MyWPformat or integrate it into MyWP.

-- 
Michael Dillon                                    Voice: +1-604-546-8022
Memra Software Inc.                                 Fax: +1-604-546-3049
http://www.memra.com                             E-mail: michael@memra.com