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From: jparnas@cybercom.net (Jacob Parnas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc
Subject: config help/prices/please email
Date: 28 Apr 1996 10:56:43 GMT
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Lots of stuff from: http://www.tdl.com/~netex/price
Other stuff from 1-800 MICRO-ASSIST
Also stuff from AxisMicro in Medford Mass

$   450   ASUS Single Processor ASUS P/I P6RP4 from 
$ 1,205   Single 200 MHz Pentium Pro Processor (256 K L2 cache)
$ 2,276   128 MB (4 x 32 MB memory) (from Axis ($569/each)
$   283   case, cooling/fan/power supply, long cables for Screen (for 
 	     silence in my room (6-10 feet).
        $ 80 Diamond med tower case, 250 W UL, Dual Fan, rail mount
        $100 Best Keyboard (with control key above shift if possible and 
	     natural and hand rest and click.  Also 3 button Logitech
	     Mouse Man II Ergonomic 3 button mouse $ 20 PC Power
	and Cooling Pentium Pro fan $ 50 50 pin to BNC connect from
	Matrox (4MG) with real time video option
	     to Sony 5 BNC input 19" screen (in 1280x1024 mode)
	     (really an IBM 6091 19 display.  $ 30 Keyboard, Mouse,
	CDROM mount externally (1x, 8x) 5 1/4" HH $ 33 floppy. (3
	1/2 "), top quality.
    
       2-4P (PCI:screen,scs1,scsi2?,expansion) / 3-5I(ISA:ethernet,ISDN,
	     multi SER/PAR) / SCSI: 4 Gig new now, another 8-9 GIG
	     new later?, 1-2xelite?, extra disk way later, 2xCD's,
	     1xTanberg, 1 Exabyte, 2 extra?) = 1-11

P$    450 Screen Card (Matrox Millenium MGA-MIL-4N) PCI slot 
          (720000xstones using Xinside on Pentium P-90 at 24 bit 
	  truecolor) with 4 MB WRAM)
$    250 Matrox Screen Card mpeg 1024x768 30fps for Matrox Millenium? 
	 or what else
	   what does it do?
P$    231 really good SCSI card (40 MByte/sec double-wide, double-speed)
P?       Adaptek 4940-UW.
$    900 disk (4.3 GB SCSI III disk, 512 Kbyte cache, 8.5 ms seeek time)
$    170 Bert Shure, ISN = $170 8x CDRom
I$        cheapest 10 Mbit/sec ethernet card which works with BSDI 
I$   100 sound card + hook up to stereo (16 bit to preamp only and to mike
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
$6,315  

UPgrade to dual processor/8 72 pin 60 ns pin slots (Supermicro/MicroAssist)
$ 1,150
-------
$ 7,755 Cost of hardware for me (Don't need screen or tape drive)

Software:

$1,050 BSDI SOFTWARE with source as educational institution.
         Find out proof needed, full time, etc, how long? (with student
         proof -- like transcript or ID or registration, with full source 
	 code)

$  100 Xinside
$  100 Windows-95
----------------------------------------
$ 1,250 total

	Shipping
In 3 months
$         BSDI support/updates (unlimited phone)
$  100    Xinside support+updates

unknowns:
  $	  UPS (triplite has software that works with BSDI (SHUTS IT DOWN,
		when batteries get low)
  $       postscript HP color printer (8 1/2" x 11", min 16-24bits, min 
	  300x300 resolution
  $       color, flatbed scanner 8 1/2 x 11"
============================================================================
Sun System (available stuff over NFS, at least during transition):

     Sun Sparcstation II (64 memory will have to be sent back since 100 ns).
   * US Robotics V.34+/V.everything Courier modem hooked up at 115,200 baud
   * High Speed dual RS/232 and printer card.
   * 19 " color screen with 5 BNC connectors.
  ** External Exabyte 8500 (5 GB) (8mm) (will use my network backup 
	program to start
  ** two 207 MB 3 1/2 inch disks (internal in Sun)

  ** quad SCSI 5 1/4" rack mount (not rack mounted) inch box with:
  **   -- two 1.6 MB full height disks 
  **   -- 1 tanberg QIC 1/4 inch SCSI 
  **   -- 1 CDrom at original CDrom speed (1x)
  (Sun SCSI out cable (mini) goes into large input cable of SCSI QUAD BOX 
   which ends and termininates the SCSI bus with a cable from the large
   OUTPUT cable/connector of the QUAD BOX to the large INPUT cable to the
   INPUT Box
    -- I'll probably move the SCSI quad box and contents all at once)

  ** 2 RS/232 A/B boxes and 1 Parallel Printer A/B box.
  ** 35 Microphone 

  * IBM 4019 Postscript laser Printer

*  reuse on new system immediately -- but I can connect up.
** reuse on new system eventually (during/after recompilation of 
      environment, etc)
============================================================================


-- Is the 512 Kbyte cache P6200 out yet.  If so, what's the lowest price
   anyone saw?

-- What is the cheapest good single and dual processor for the Pentium Pro
   people have seen and from where?

-- What's the lowest memory price people have seen (72 pin, 60 ns), 32 or 64
   MB?

-- how much more should dual processor motherboards cost than uniprocessor? 
   Yes, I know now BSDI doesn't support dual processors.

-- What are the lowest prices people have seen on each item?

-- Some I don't know well (eg scanners).  Which should I get?  At what cost.
   What's it like?

-- Any lower prices out there anyone suggests?

-- Which Ultra Wide/Fast SCSI ~4.3 GB 7200 RPM disk do people sugggest and
      at what cost.  

--  SCSI controller -- Which SCSI III controller is better:
       958 or some Adaptec? (2940UW))?  What's the lowest cost seen?

--  Anything to help V.34@115,200 baud or ISDN@512,000 (may be internal 
    on bus)?

--  What's the cheapest BSDI compatible ethernet card?

--  I'm wondering if that's the best box configuration.  I'd like two half
    height 5 1/4 for the two CD drives, a 3 1/2 " floppy drive (in the box/but
    so one can put a CD or floppy into the drive), and at least 2 and possibly
    4 internal 3 1/2" disks.  What's the LED used for?  how is is hooked up?
    Which box do people suggest and at what cost?

--  If I wanted the 2 CD drives and/or floppy external, how much would that 
    cost (away from the box?

--  Which 3.5 inch disk drive (SCSI-III, ~4.3 GB, 7200 rpm, <= 8.5 ms 
    seek time) cost around 900, I guess, do you suggest?  What cost/where?

Please email to jparnas@jparnas.cybercom.net.

Thanks,

Jacob