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From: irv@ellijay.com
Subject: Re: Communications Decency Act may corrupt protocols
Message-ID: <41a7cc$d3327.256@royal.lanyap.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 17:21:10 GMT
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jc@eddie.mit.edu (John Chambers) wrote:
>vhalkka@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>> In article <4l4hcl$n75@hobyah.cc.uq.oz.au>,
>> Catherine Allen <cccalle0@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> wrote:
>> >This is a world-wide net and a world-wide problem.
>> >Your president and your laws do not have jurisdiction over most of it.
>> >A better solution is needed.
>>
>> I don't know.. maybe we should just gradually leave the USA out of the
>> current Internet, vital services will surface in some other place.
>>
>> There could be a US governement controlled filth gateway between
>> 'US-safenet' and the Internet.
>Perhaps this is a very practical idea. This is not materially
>different from the "perimeter network" model that a lot of
>organizations are using for security. The idea is fairly simple, and
>is described in a lot of texts on security. The organization simply
>provides two parallel networks, one an "internal" network that is not
>connected to the outside world, and the other the "perimeter" network
>that is connected. A small number of gateways between the two
>implement the organization's access policies.
>We might start suggesting to the politicians that this be adopted for
>the Internet. All the FQDNs in the ".us" domain will be considered
>internal to the USA and subject to its jurisdiction. All other domains
>will be declared legally external to the USA.
>How might this be used? Well, for one, all those parents worried about
>their childrens' Internet access could ust make sure that their
>machines (and those in the schools) are in the .us domain, where the
>authorities would patrol for indecent material and suppress it. Adults
>could apply for a domain outside .us and get unlimited access.
>Companies that want to use secure communications could keep their
>domains outside .us; those that want their communications to comply
>with the US government's key-escrow policies could apply for
>subdomains under .us.
>This seems like an approach that could satisfy everyone, and it'd only
>take a small reorg of the Net to implement.
>Hey, do you think we could get the politicians to buy it?
>;-)
Nope. This fine idea fails to satisfy the most important criteria of the people
involved in the Internet censorship issue:
1. Their need to meddle in and control other people's lives. Under your
plan, people could still DO THINGS the censors DON'T WANT THEM TO DO!
Gasp!=0
2. The government's need to justify greater spending in order to diddle more
with private enterprise so that they can justify greater spending in order
to.... well, you get the idea.
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