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Subject: [comp.unix.bsd] NetBSD, FreeBSD, and 386BSD (0.1) FAQ (Part 10 of 10)
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Archive-name: 386bsd-faq/part10

Section 9	("Supported" Software List).

9.0	What GNU software has been tested and is working with Net/2 derived
	BSD systems for the 386?

	Just about all of it.


9.1	Has anyone ever gotten news to work?

	The program 'news' running on 386bsd.  Here is a quick summary of 
	the major places to stumble:

	1)  get bash, gmake, gcc 2.X, cnews, trn (or your favorite reader).

	2)  Make uucp work. (Read the info files that come with the
	    original distribution for the whole scoop on configuration 
	    files.)

	Ed Note:  This step is not needed if you are implementing SLIP or
	are directly connected to a network.

	3)  Edit all the scripts which come with cnews and replace every 
	occurence of /bin/sh with /usr/local/bin/bash (or wherever you put 
	it).

	4)  Build cnews using bash, gmake and gcc 2.x

	5)  Install cnews in the directories you want it.  Some hand-hacking 
	of the intall scripts is required (Too long ago to remember the 
	details).

	6)  Change the permissions on all the scripts from execute only to 
	read-execute for group and other.  (On 386bsd, if you can't read 
	a script, you can't execute it).

	7)  Set up uucp to accept news

	8)  Post an article and steal it out of the uucp queue before it 
	gets sent.  Feed it to your rnews (as user uucp) instead and make 
	sure that it does not bomb out with permission denied or some such.

	9)  Have fun!

	Implementing innd is even easier.  The configure script that comes 
	with the system has been modified to work more correctly with
	Net/2 derived BSD systems.  The first is that the LINTLIBSTYLE
	option in config.data needs to be set to NONE, since NetBSD and 
	FreeBSD don't come with lint.  With that changed, the system
	should work right out of the box.

	If you are running with memory mapped files, you will also need
	to make the following patch:

	--- icd.c.orig  Tue Feb  7 13:36:50 1995
	+++ icd.c       Tue Feb  7 14:56:27 1995
	@@ -366,7 +366,9 @@
	 ICDwriteactive()
	  {
	   #if    defined(ACT_MMAP)
	   -    /* No-op. */
	   +    if (msync(ICDactpointer, 0)) {
	   +       syslog(L_ERROR, "msync error on active file: %m");
	   +    }

	    #else


9.2	How did you get emacs to compile?

	The problem is in the dump-emacs function.  It writes the image 
	header and then the text section of the image overwrites the
	header.  This leaves you with a bad image.  If you try to load it 
	into gdb, it will tell you that it is not an executable.  

	What to do?

	Look back at your configuration command:

	>% configure i386-intel-386bsd --with-x=no

	The 386bsd qualifier means that the compiles will include the file
	src/s/386bsd.h.  If you go into this file and add the lines:

	#define A_TEXT_OFFSET(x)  (sizeof (struct exec))
	#define A_TEXT_SEEK(hdr) (N_TXTOFF(hdr) + A_TEXT_OFFSET(hdr))

	This tells the subroutines in src/unexec.c about the 32 byte image
	header, so that they will set up the header appropriately and not step
	on it while writing the emacs executable.

	The second problem is that emacs tries use its own crt0.o file.
	Kill that line in the Makefile and you should be able to compile
	for either static or shared library operations.

9.2	Has anyone tried to get Postgres to work?

	Jim Bachesta and his crew have gotten Postgres 4.2 working in
	the i386 version of NetBSD 1.0.  The netbsd source tree is
	available from:

	ftp://charon.amdahl.com:pub/agc/postgres-4.2-src-netbsd-v2.tar.gz

	The regular postgres distribution is available from:

	ftp://s2k-ftp.cs.berkeley.edu:pub/postgres

	Get the standard distribution and then overlay the NetBSD source
	distribution over it for a complete system.

9.3	How about the BSD Song?

 
	In a dark dim machine room
	Cool A/C in my hair
	Warm smell of silicon
	Rising up through the air
	Up ahead in the distance
    	I saw a Solarian(tm) light
    	My kernel grew heavy, and my disk grew slim
    	I had to halt(8) for the night
    	The backup spun in the tape drive
    	I heard a terminal bell
    	And I was thinking to myself
    	This could be BSD or USL
    	Then they started a lawsuit
    	And they showed me the way
    	There were salesmen down the corridor
    	I thought I heard them say
 	 
    	Welcome to Berkeley California
    	Such a lovely place
    	Such a lovely place (backgrounded)
    	Such a lovely trace(1)
    	Plenty of jobs at Berkeley California
    	Any time of year
    	Any time of year (backgrounded)
    	You can find one here
    	You can find one here
 	 
    	Their code was definately twisted
    	But they've got the stock market trends
    	They've got a lot of pretty, pretty lawyers
    	That they call friends
    	How they dance in the courtroom
    	See BSDI sweat
    	Some sue to remember
    	Some sue to forget
    	So I called up Kernighan
    	Please bring me ctime(3)
    	He said
    	We haven't had that tm_year since 1969
    	And still those functions are calling from far away
    	Wake up Jobs in the middle of the night
    	Just to hear them say
 	 
    	Welcome to Berkeley California
    	Such a lovely Place
    	Such a lovely Place (backgrounded)
    	Such a lovely trace(1)
    	They're livin' it up suing Berkeley California
    	What a nice surprise
    	What a nice surprise (backgrounded)
    	Bring your alibies
 	 
    	Windows NT a dreaming
    	Pink OS on ice
    	And they said
    	We are all just prisoners here
    	Of a marketing device
    	And in the judges's chambers
    	They gathered for the feast
    	They diff(1)'d the source code listings
    	But they can't kill -9 the beast
    	Last thing I remember
    	I was restore(8)'ing | more(1)
    	I had to find the soft link back to the path I was before
    	sleep(3) said the pagedaemon
    	We are programmed to recv(2)
    	You can swap out any time you like
    	But you can never leave(1)
 	 
    	[ substitute whirring of disk and tape drives for guitar solo ]
	 
	Written by David Barr <barr@pop.psu.edu>
	and Ken Hornstein <kenh@physci.psu.edu>
	and a little help from Greg Nagy <nagy@cs.psu.edu>

	and thanks to the lyrics archive at cs.uwp.edu

-- 
Dave Burgess  (The man of a thousand E-Mail addresses)
386bsd FAQ Maintainer / SysAdmin for the NetBSD system in my spare bedroom
"Just because something is stupid doesn't mean that there isn't someone
that wants to do it...."