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From: torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX)
Date: 25 Apr 1996 09:27:22 +0300
Organization: University of Helsinki
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In article <kevinbDqC2K2.CAH@netcom.com>,
Kevin Brown <kevinb@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>The ultimate key to the server market is the client market.  The
>reason for that is that there are many more instances of clients than
>servers, and the disparity between clients and servers will continue
>to decrease as commodity hardware becomes more powerful and as client
>OSes continue to gain server capabilities.

Halleluja! The above comment needs to be framed and handed out to UNIX
vendors (and others too, I ahve to admit).

Anybody who concentrates on the server side of things is _dead_ in the
water when the client people come loaded for bear.

Nice graphical sysadmin programs aren't the answer.  People will wade
through sh*t up to their eyebrows and be _happy_ without them (yes, even
your "average" user will accept cryptic and hard-to-use textual setup
files if you have reasonable defaults: look at windows .ini files). 

Yet all the unix vendors fall over backwards to try to make some silly
program that makes sysadmin look easy. Nobody really cares - I suspect
that the standard "it's too hard to administer" thing people say is
really a "there is nothing there I _want_ to administer", yet silly
vendors keep doing the sysadmin programs..

STOP doing the damn glitzy admin stuff: it's a secondary issue at _most_
if even that.  If you don't have the applications, people won't care
about the admin stuff either, because there simply isn't anything they
want to administer. 

The last two vendor unixes I saw (I won't name names) both came with
graphical tools for doing disk striping etc.  NEITHER of them had any
applications loaded at _all_, and their shell didn't even have command
line editing on by default (This is 1996, folks, we don't need no
steenking editing facilities!).  No wonder people flock away in droves
and hope for the "saviour" NT - at least MS has been known to put a few
games etc with the basic distribution. 

		Linus