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From: rkswamy@unity.ncsu.edu (Ravi K. Swamy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX)
Date: 23 Apr 1996 04:08:42 GMT
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[because I'm feeling silly tonight...]

In article <4lgvk6$enc@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>,
Kevin P. Neal <kpneal@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote:
>Charles A. Tilbury (ctilbury@hic.net) wrote:

>Most of the world believes that PCs are the end-all be-all computer.
>I once had a person ask me (concerning my Amiga) "Does it run PC
>programs?" No "Well, does it run Mac programs?" Nope "Well, what

I thought Mattingly was bragging to me about running Mac 68k
programs on his Amiga?

>does it run?" Amiga programs. "Oh, really?" Sigh.
>
>Most of the journalists I have been exposed to tend to write about how
>people should buy a PC, I mean it works for them, right?

Their idea of "works" is quite silly...

>My Dad bought my brother a Win95 box for Christmas. Now Dad is learning about
>all of the crap that Windows brings along with it. He asks me:
>"So why do people put up with all of this?" Because, Dad, this is
>*normal* to most people. 

Sorry, with all respect to your dad and all, you said he supports
the CDA so I can't say I feel sorry for him.  I take it your
brother is nothing like you?  He should have bought a Mac.

>Journalists included. You never ever hear about how, for example,
>Plug and Play has problems.

Actually I do sometimes, especially from Mac users who have had
it for a decade or so.

> You never hear about how ISA is 15 years
>old and should have been ditched 10 years ago. You never hear about
>how PC Windows programs keep getting larger and slower.

Actually you do, it's just you hear about it more from non-Windows
users.

> Because
>the vast majority of users, journalists included, consider this to be
>normal. What Free Unix needs is reporters in high places who support
>our view. 
>
>I tend to discount any media coverage of computers in general, they tend
>to screw up.

Who is paying their bills as in advertising?  Think about it.

> One local news channel had reporters on the scene with
>a sattalite. link-up to bring the live pictures to the rest of the Triangle
>area of people (Ohmygosh ohmygosh) BUYING the First copies of Win95! Whee!
>As if it was exciting or something. She (the reporter) thought it was.
>
>Another example of a local journalist saying something dumb:
>This university (NCSU) has around 27,000 students. We have an extensive
>Public Safety force, to the point where I (a male) feel perfectly fine
>walking around on campus at 4 in the morning. 

4 am?  Isn't that when you usually go to Riddick? :)

>That's what I mean by news "bias". Sorry for being long winded. 
>Oh, and this message was brought to you by my Windows 95 laptop,
>an IBM thinkpad that doesn't run IBM's OS/2 because it doesn't work
>very well on this IBM equipment. Also, I'm posting from a
>Dec Alpha running NetBSD. Attribute typos to 95% OK Win95 vt100 emulation.

Does crazytrain actually get used for anything besides running tin? :)

>Attribute brainos to me being just 21, and raised in a small town.

Older than me...

>Well, I'm in a city now, like it, and am in the process of getting out
>from behind my computer. Scary, huh?

Whoo hoo, that is scary.

Ravi
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Ravi K. Swamy                http://www4.ncsu.edu/~rkswamy/www/
rkswamy@eos.ncsu.edu         root@genom.com