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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!cc.gatech.edu!cc.gatech.edu!byron From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Date: 18 Apr 1996 19:32:12 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology - College of Computing Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4l65bs$rog@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> References: <NELSON.96Apr15010553@ns.crynwr.com> <3175DBD4.167EB0E7@FreeBSD.org> <4l5f31$ijv@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> <4l5ltp$4pa@dyson.iquest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: gemini.cc.gatech.edu NNTP-Posting-User: byron Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21883 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:730 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3371 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3212 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17784 comp.os.linux.advocacy:46471 In article <4l5ltp$4pa@dyson.iquest.net>, John S. Dyson <root@dyson.iquest.net> wrote: -In article <4l5f31$ijv@solaria.cc.gatech.edu>, -Byron A Jeff <byron@cc.gatech.edu> wrote: ->In article <3175DBD4.167EB0E7@FreeBSD.org>, ->Jordan K. Hubbard <jkh@FreeBSD.org> wrote: ->>Russell Nelson wrote: ->>> system can claim this. The *BSD* people have abandoned the desktop. ->>> Fine, let them have a hobby operating system. We're going to go for ->>> the big bucks. ->> ->>Not going for the desktop hardly equals "Hobby operating system", you've ->>simply got this weird (and wholly naive) obsession that the "desktop is ->>the computer", like some Sun marketing droid who took too much LSD ->>during the 60's and is now having a flashback to end all flashbacks. -> ->Jordan, -> ->While I have to admit that Russell's views are quite close to the edge ->(like over ;-) his core premise is sound. We cannot concede the desktop. -> ->However first we have to fulfill two or three basic premises: -> ->- Deliver at a cheaper cost (Got that one covered) ->- Deliver a better product (Got that one covered too) ->- Deliver a product that performs just about the same functions and in ->a manner that the user is used to (This is the kicker) -> -Let me add something to item 3 above, the new "thing" needs to be fully -interoperable. Likely the fileformats need to be the same as the predominant. - -Using your car analogy, you also need to operate on the same roads. NONE of the -free U**X software that I know of supports WORD-6, WORD-7 files... Exactly what I meant. Thanks for clarifying. BAJ -- Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of... Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel - And Using Linux! Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu