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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!goliath.apana.org.au!news.syd.connect.com.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!news.jhu.edu!aplcenmp!netnews.jhuapl.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!nntp.inet.fi!news.funet.fi!news.helsinki.fi!not-for-mail From: torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi (Linus Torvalds) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Date: 17 Apr 1996 15:33:50 +0300 Organization: University of Helsinki Lines: 29 Message-ID: <4l2ofe$jjo@kruuna.helsinki.fi> References: <4ki055$60l@Radon.Stanford.EDU> <317339E6.581CCB0B@lambert.org> <4l0gi7$kv7@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <3173FF99.46221A66@lambert.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: kruuna.helsinki.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21733 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:682 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3314 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3149 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17641 comp.os.linux.advocacy:46201 In article <3173FF99.46221A66@lambert.org>, Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> wrote: >Kevin P. Neal wrote: >] Funny, last time I went to www.microsoft.com, it was slow as a dog. >] >] I was amused. > >Do not intentionally confuse bad implementation with bad design, >or bad design with bad ideas. > >If you do this, you will commit a disservice to yourself. A good >idea or design is good, regardless of whether or not you like the >politics of its origin. Do not intentionally confuse politics or origin with a bad implementation. A good idea or design is _not_ good, unless there is a good implementation of it. It is *never* a excuse to say that the "basic design" is good, if the product is bad. A bad product is a bad product, regardless of politics, origin _or_ design. If the basic design is good, then the product may be more easily improved in the future, but before those improvements are done you're just handwaving. Fight vapourware! Linus