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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.bhp.com.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.hawaii.edu!news.uoregon.edu!hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk!news.cuhk.edu.hk!newsfeeder.ust.hk!nntp.hk.super.net!news.duke.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.mathworks.com!gatech!lepidopteran.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!news.inap.net!news1!not-for-mail From: root@dyson.iquest.net (John S. Dyson) Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dyson.iquest.net Message-ID: <4kjbrf$p4@dyson.iquest.net> Sender: news@iquest.net (News Admin) Organization: John S. Dyson's Machine References: <4issad$h1o@nadine.teleport.com> <4kcsjc$ii@dyson.iquest.net> <316AA938.74276335@gnu.ai.mit.edu> <kaleb.829165198@exalt> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:26:23 GMT Lines: 30 In article <kaleb.829165198@exalt>, Kaleb KEITHLEY <kaleb@x.org> wrote: >"H.J. Lu" <hjl@gnu.ai.mit.edu> writes: > >>Also the MT support will not be as good as with ELF. > >IBM and Digital seem to do just fine without ELF. > >>ELF is one opportunity for Unix to create new, innovative >>softwares. I hate to see Unix miss the chance. > >So you're saying that all the software developed before, oh, let's say >1990, was neither new or innovative. Can I quote you on that? :-) > I wonder if it is that he is trying to say that there is nothing innovative except Linux? :-). Kind-of follows considering FreeBSD will be able to run ELF binaries (incl. Linux), and most of the work that really will need to be done in the short term is to clean up the development tools (which is indeed being done very well already.) The postion that I see that the team (core and other involved parties) is taking on is that FreeBSD won't be supporting ELF as it's default format for a while (perhaps ever, because the decision hasn't been made yet, I am neutral on the subject, and let those that have strong arguments/opinions make that decision.) I still don't see where the argument that Mr. Lu is presenting even reflects reality? (In essence, if you want to run ELF, you will most likely be able to -- so where's the beef???). I see most of the argument here is a lack of communication (I hope.) John dyson@freebsd.org