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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.corpcomm.net!newstand.syr.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!ub!ns1.potsdam.edu!news From: nelson@ns.crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX) Date: 15 Apr 1996 04:04:49 GMT Organization: Crynwr Software Lines: 37 Message-ID: <NELSON.96Apr15000449@ns.crynwr.com> References: <4ki055$60l@Radon.Stanford.EDU> <jdd.829261293@cdf.toronto.edu> <NELSON.96Apr12112334@ns.crynwr.com> <4krrmj$dsu@library.erc.clarkson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ns.crynwr.com In-reply-to: shapircs@craft.camp.clarkson.edu's message of 14 Apr 1996 21:45:55 GMT Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:21320 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:577 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3177 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2988 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:17277 comp.os.linux.advocacy:45344 In article <4krrmj$dsu@library.erc.clarkson.edu> shapircs@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carl S. Shapiro) writes: > Russell Nelson (nelson@ns.crynwr.com) wrote: > > (stuff cut out) > > : That's because they weren't working cooperatively. What, pray tell, > : Jordan, prevents you from improving the flaws that you see in Linux, > : to the point where it is as good as FreeBSD or NetBSD or OpenBSD or > : 386BSD? Hey Carl, how do? You're exactly one of the FreeBSD contributors I'm thinking of. You have a laundry list of Linux shortcomings. Linux has the market share and mind share that NONE of the *BSD* operating systems have. That's why Linux is the only free operating system with any chance of overcoming any Microsoft operating system. So fix the laundry list. > GPL? Why should I have to give all of my work away for free? If you contribute to *BSD, you do exactly that. It's essentially impossible (unmanagably large problem) to have an operating system with a large number of significant copyright holders, distribute the code in any proprietary manner, and compensate the copyright holders. The Linux kernel uses the GPL, and the *BSD kernels use the BSD license, to bypass that problem. What is the actual (not perceived) difference? Yes, you can use the BSD-licensed code to build a proprietary, distributable solution, but then you're not contributing to free software. -- -russ <nelson@crynwr.com> http://www.crynwr.com/~nelson Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | PGP ok 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | If you would seek peace, Potsdam, NY 13676 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | first seek freedom