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From: volker@carlotta.iam.uni-bonn.de (Volker A. Brandt)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: Curious about *BSD History
Date: 13 Apr 1996 19:23:33 GMT
Organization: Inst.f.Appl.Math., University of Bonn
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In article <1996Apr12.210743.28292@wavehh.hanse.de> cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) writes:
>volker@carlotta.iam.uni-bonn.de (Volker A. Brandt) writes:
>My newsfeed missed Jordan's and the previous post, could someone mail
>them to me, please?

Hope s.o. did that, because I don't have them any more ...

>>Indeed.  I have the bounce-buffer problem. However, I also believe in
>>portability, and have an Atari TT.  There are always some tradeoffs
>>involved.
>
>If you want a NetBSD-like OS that runs on i386 and Atari, you might
>try OpenBSD. 

But NetBSD runs just fine on an Atari TT.

>Some of NetBSD's developers want a bounce-buffer solution that is not
>specific to one spefic kind of device or one kind of machine. For
>example, the DEC Alpha machines have ISA bus, but to use ISA cards
>with DMA you *always* have to use bounce buffers, even with 16 MB of
>RAM. 
>
>The implementation should share as much code as possible for different
>tasks and abstracts the details so that adding additional usage for
>bounce buffers is less work.

Agreed.  I am willing to wait for a thought-out solution.  Also, the only
alternative would be to do it myself :-)

>I can't resist, sorry, but let me say that you bought a machine and a
>SCSI controller that cannot use more than 16 MB of RAM. Now you put 24
>MB of RAM in it and want your OS to fix it. Mumble...

At the time I bought the system, I would have been more than happy if I had
had the money to get an EISA system, but I didn't.  End of story.  PCI, 
you ask?  Barely on the market, buggy and not affordable either.


-- Volker
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