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Newsgroups: alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc,alt.binaries.warez.mac,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.acorn.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.machten,comp.unix.pc-clone.16bit,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.user-friendly Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!qns3.qns.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news.emi.net!ttyf6.emi.net!user From: chrisjo@emi.net (DangerMouse) Subject: Re: FIVE GOOD REASONS WHY IBM'S ARE BETTER THAN MACS Distribution: inet Sender: news@emi.net (EmiNet Domain News Admin) Organization: C.H.E.E.S.E. Message-ID: <chrisjo-1004961205000001@ttyf6.emi.net> References: <Cyclone-0504961737500001@dial24.trip.net> <31664662.1081143@153.2.170.10> <dke-0604960729360001@adnline68.adnc.com> <31678d59.1170056@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <31685e02.5498255@news.earthlink.net> <4kabef$lfg@acmez.gatech.edu> <3169647e.2324874@news.earthlink.net> <saddino-0804961937200001@saddino.clark.net> <316a1e7d.49946644@news.earthlink.net> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ttyf6.emi.net Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:05:00 GMT Lines: 135 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc:33505 alt.binaries.warez.mac:2897 comp.os.linux.advocacy:44148 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:122064 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:20780 comp.os.msdos.misc:52869 comp.os.os2.advocacy:190895 comp.sys.acorn.advocacy:7671 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:97862 comp.sys.next.advocacy:34534 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:2253 comp.unix.advocacy:18508 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:16873 comp.unix.bsd.misc:652 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2830 comp.unix.machten:2128 comp.unix.pc-clon e.16bit:605 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:9141 comp.unix.shell:31367 comp.unix.solaris:65313 comp.unix.user-friendly:3542 In article <316a1e7d.49946644@news.earthlink.net>, hybridv@earthnet.net (hybridv@earthnet.net) wrote: > On Mon, 08 Apr 1996 19:37:20 -0400, saddino@clark.net (Danny Espinoza) > wrote: > > > > >Tee, hee. Your rantings Mr. "Hybridv" are in a league of their own... > > > >In article <3169647e.2324874@news.earthlink.net>, hybridv, hybridv wrote: > >> >>ok so native FPU mode is faster on a MAC! who gives a shit.. no > >> >>program fully utlizees it !... i use 7200,8500... blah blah at work > > > >*No* program fully utilizes PowerPC FPU? Thanks for the informative report! > > > >> >>with p-133 and a p-100.... the pcs are 2x-6x faster on every > >> >>application for both machines... the all have 64 mb ram...and my p-100 > >> >>is consinstanly faster then the mac132 in all aps... let that be > >> >>photoshop, premiere, pagemaker,, blah blah blah.... not to mention > > > >Faster than the mac132 in *all* apps? You say you "work" ;-) but you > >obviously have enough time to have compared all those applications. Good > >work, Sparky. > > > >> >>macs are a PAIN in the ass to fix when a software crash happens... > >> >>theres no real fucking way to figure out what goes on... a sloppy, > >> >>slow gui floods the screen with minamle configureation... the standard > >> >>4x cd that comes with it wont read dual session cds,,, it sucks > > > >Gee, you're right! Why would anyone want a GUI that "floods" the screen? > >Hey Apple, that screen real-estate is expensive! > > > >> >>printing to a ethernetwork... and its SLOW!!!!! the pcs rip in all the > >> >>shitty mac areas.... only one good reason to have a mac and that is > >> >>for publishing any shit every place that does pro. output uses macs... > > > >Oops, a little "pro-Apple" blurb (or is it a burp)? Hey! These > >publishing houses must be out of their minds since you've proven that > >PhotoShop and PageMaker run faster on a Pentium 100! > > > >> >>so i need them to be compatable.... dont even start with soft > >> >>windows... the older monitors arnt even compatable with the new pci > >> >>video boards.... blah blah blah ... there just targed for the lame ass > >> >>out there that cant understand at least 25% of how a computer works... > > > >25%! Now you're talking! Statistics that we all can use! "Blah" is a > >word you spell very well. > > > >> >>i had a mac freak come up to me once at my work and said "i heard SCSI > >> >>is faster then PCI" >?????????? what the fuck does that mean.. kinda > >> >>like my "fireplace is better then your rosegarden?" whatever.. and it > >> >>happens that 85% of mac uses have this mentality about computers... > > > >85%! Another great stat! Where are these coming from? Are they coming > >from where you're sitting? :-) Gee, you love talking about "your work." > >Not an Editor I hope. > > > >> i work right next store to a mac store... every day i see at least > >> 20-30 computer being brought in to be serviced, fixed whatever... i > > > >Stop looking out the window! You should be working... > > > >> have never ever had to use any service place to fix my pc's most mac > >> users are so scared of fucking computers when i asked if they opened > >> up there computer to see if there video board slipped out they said > >> "i might not know what im doing but im not stupid?" what does that > >> mean they must think that i bites them that there are 40 million miles > > > >You've asked most Mac users if they're video board has slipped out? You > >haven't asked me yet! Come on, I'm waiting! Okay, my answer *would* > >involve 40 million miles of wires and tubes, so you *got* me, pal! > > > >> of wires and vacum tubes just waiting to eat them... oh yeah can > > > >[snip] > > > >> use a seperate cd... gota go to work.... ill finsih replying > >> later.. > >> > > > >Go get em, boy! And thanks for the laughs. :-) Watch out for Macintoshes > >trying to eat you!!! > > > >Love, > >Danny > > > >-- > >Danny Espinoza > >Multimedia Design Corporation > >saddino@clark.net > > > > your welcome.... ok the stats or not from the encyclopedia of mac > users they are very good "guesses" from all the experience i have > had... i "work" at a publishing house. where we do color fiery output > from computers such as quark,photoshop,pagemaker, .... the only > reasons i can think that most people use macs in this field is they > have been more capable in the past then pcs but now are far > superseded... and the users them selves again have very little > knowledge of what's going on, they know what a text box is but not a > FPU... there is no excuse for that in my mind... im not necessarily > pro or con mac just right now they are not "great" machines, the > design needs much improvement especially in the os area... and i know > the os isn't hardware but since it is so uniprogramed "only one os" > right now... it might well be a hard ware thing... comprende? well my > post wasn't supposed to be super serious and i see you recognized it.. > just pointing out the pitfalls of the molasses machine... keep sending > the comments.. > > HybridV oh real freaking great. shows you what little you know about a mac.Actually, the Mac OS is embedded in the hardware. Most Mac users don't go into their machine because they don't need to. Ho-hum, My neighbor has a Pentium and I can't count how many times I've been over his house to fix a stupid error he made in windoze 91,2,3,4,5. It's a real good machine when you leave it the way it is....wait a minut, I think that works for all computers now that you didin't ask ;). Also, yes my boy, the Mac OS is infact built into the hardware and the hardware is built into the Mac OS. The original OS is embedded into the ROM. The system file is just an update so it can work with newer computers. Tell yeah another thing. RAM is probably your best friend.My mother has a Performa 630 at work with 32mbs of ram. and my 6100 is being seriously wooped(it only has 8) and hers is faster than my neighbors pentium. So why dont' you check out whats under the hood of your Mac insted of B*******n about how slow it is.