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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.cis.okstate.edu!newsfeed.ksu.ksu.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!gt-news!prism!prism!not-for-mail From: gt0151c@prism.gatech.edu (David Shaw) Newsgroups: alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc,alt.binaries.warez.mac,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.acorn.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.machten,comp.unix.pc-clone.16bit,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.user-friendly Subject: Re: FIVE GOOD REASONS WHY IBM'S ARE BETTER THAN MACS Date: 8 Apr 1996 19:32:19 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 84 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4kc7m3$b7o@acmez.gatech.edu> References: <Cyclone-0504961737500001@dial24.trip.net> <31664662.1081143@153.2.170.10> <dke-0604960729360001@adnline68.adnc.com> <31678d59.1170056@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <31685e02.5498255@news.earthlink.net> <4kabef$lfg@acmez.gatech.edu> <3169647e.2324874@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: acmez-prism.gatech.edu Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc:33159 alt.binaries.warez.mac:2845 comp.os.linux.advocacy:43951 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:121842 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:20622 comp.os.msdos.misc:52783 comp.os.os2.advocacy:190483 comp.sys.acorn.advocacy:7609 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:97599 comp.sys.next.advocacy:34487 comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy:2193 comp.unix.advocacy:18382 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:16791 comp.unix.bsd.misc:636 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:2807 comp.unix.machten:2109 comp.unix.pc-clon e.16bit:593 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:9125 comp.unix.shell:31313 comp.unix.solaris:65201 comp.unix.user-friendly:3531 hybridv, hybridv writes: >i work right next store to a mac store... every day i see at least >20-30 computer being brought in to be serviced, fixed whatever... i >have never ever had to use any service place to fix my pc's most mac >users are so scared of fucking computers when i asked if they opened >up there computer to see if there video board slipped out they said >"i might not know what im doing but im not stupid?" what does that >mean they must think that i bites them that there are 40 million miles >of wires and vacum tubes just waiting to eat them... oh yeah can I hate to tell you this, but statistically Macs cost 50% less to support than Windows machines. You can't argue with it. You can't dispute it. It's a fact. Windows machines have more problems, they take longer to learn, they have more incompatibilities, and they are of consistenly lower quality. There are problems with all computers, including Macs, PCs, UNIX boxes, and anything else you come across. But the Mac is by far the easiest to use, and allows the user to get more done in less time by not forcing him to troubleshoot every change they make to their configuration. >somebody tell me if you can directly access video memory segments in >the mac or do you allways have to go through the os? i really dont >know. Of course you can. But writing directly to hardware is idiotic. You will always have problems when a newer video technology, a better card, or a faster implementation comes along. If you write to the toolbox, then when the technology changes your code will still work. Apple requests that its developers write to the toolbox, but if you're a moron you don't have to follow the Apple guidelines. ok let see about the macos.... how many os's are currently out >there for the mac? um ONE! and for pcs? in the neighborhood of 4-5... And your point is? "hey look, I can run Windows95, and then reboot and run Windows 3.1, because half of my apps don't work in 32-bit mode. Then I can reboot into OS/2 Warp because 32-bit internet apps are unstable on Win95 and too slow under Win3.1. Yeah!" And as far as Linux, it will be running on PowerPC by then end of first quarter 1996. Soon afterwards Apple, IBM and Motorola will begin shipping PowerPCPlatform(tm) machines, which will run Macintosh Copland, MacOS 7.5.4, Solaris, WindowsNT, LINUX, and maybe more. So if you feel the need to run multiple OSs, there's your solution. >ok.... and not all mac users are dumb... but most are and even the >smart ones are dumb... im shure you not a all powerfull source of info >on the mac.. you know why? cause YOU cant even find out about the >peice of crap takeing up space on your desk... How do you figure that? My computer rarely breaks, and when i does I can always fix it in 20 minutes or less. I maintain a mixed network of Macs, PCs, and UNIX machines at Georgia Tech. We handle TCP/IP, Netware, and Appletalk packets on a thirty-zone, 14x subnetted network running over 10baseT and thinnet. We're moving to Futurenet 100Mb/sec ATM right now. We have over 200 Macs in our building, about 50PCs, someNeXT machines, and some Suns. The Windows machines account for 80% of our service calls. >and for your win95 >problems... dunno... maybe your unexperianced pc user just screwed >things up... i have had my computer "bomb out" :) only once since i >installed win95.. just because i was running about 10 big programs at >the same time and my memory "even swap" filled up... just reboot and Well, I've watched Windows95 delete itself with the Uninstall Wizard, I've seen it corrupt its own registry file, I've seen it crash inexplicibly in Word for Windoze 95, and I've seen it crash while sitting idle. It's no more stable than MacOS, and compared to my home machine (which is set up to my specs), it's a lot LESS stable. >restart that's it... by the way does your cd rom that comes with your >mac read 2 session cds? dont listen to the box or anything else you >have to try it... my macs all said yes they do but none dont unless i >use a seperate cd... gota go to work.... ill finsih replying I can read multisession CDs perfectly. I could read them on My Quadra 660av before I got my Powermac. Hell, I can read them on the Performa 400 with an external AppleCD 300+ in the undergraduate lab. I don't know why you are having problems... maybe you're just too stupid to read the instructions. -- ____________________________________________________________________________ David P. Shaw, Network Administrator LCC Continuing Education dshaw@nin.skiles.gatech.edu Georgia Institute of Technology ----------------------------------------------------------------------------