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Xref: sserve gnu.misc.discuss:6475 comp.os.linux:12400 comp.unix.bsd:6437 Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!sgiblab!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!ddsw1!serveme!joeg From: joeg@gagme.chi.il.us (joe grosch) Subject: Re: Suggestions for the free Unix projects Message-ID: <1992Oct12.042518.19839@serveme.chi.il.us> Sender: usenet@serveme.chi.il.us Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6] References: <1992Oct7.040347.425@fcom.cc.utah.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:25:18 GMT Lines: 52 A Wizard of Earth C (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote: [...deleted...] : : 1000 CD's at the lowest figures listed for each step above: : : Mastering system: $ 20,000 : 3 "one off" for beta: $ 600 (3 Beta's is *very* conservative) : First 100 CD's: $ 1,500 : Next 900 CD's: $ 2,700 : B&W paper for front: $ 300 : ______ : TOTAL $ 25,100 : : Per CD cost: $ 25.10 : : Assume high "one off": $ 26.00 : : This all assumes that there is no production loss and the "+" on the $20,000 : means "and some cents". : : What did I say again? Oh yeah: : >: > o A "media charge" of $30 is not unreasonable if CD-ROM's are used : Maybe next time I should "show my work"... 8-). : : The mastering system is used to take data and lay it out in the correct : file format; it has a "CD Emulator" (2 disks) and a DAT drive for writing : the master, plus all hardware and software to deal with the creation of : the master tape. This is not something you can do without unless you : work somewhere that already bought one and they will miraculously let you : use it, or you own the company (volunteers, anyone?). : : The assumptions about 1000 disks may be wrong; I kind of doubt it; I think : the number of people buying CD ROM drives to do 386BSD or Linux would be : smaller than that; however, if they are wrong on the low side, the cost of : the mastering system amortized out over a larger number of CD ROMs *would* : drop the cost. 2000 would drop it to 14.05/14.50 depending on Beta costs, : again, assuming no production losses. : I recently spoke to the owner of Walnut Creek CD on the phone. His company is distributing a CD of the GNU and X source code. He charges $40.00 for this CD. The company I am contracting for is interested in distributing a product on CD and I was researching costs. The owner of Walnut Creek CD quoted figures very simular to the above figures, execpt he indicated that a number of the larger pressing plants will take a tar of the data on 8mm and do the mastering for you. If I remember right he said the mastering charge was $200.00 or $300.00. That is a lot less than buying your own mastering system at ~$20,000.00 a pop. -- Josef Grosch | It's been a quiet week in Lake Wobegon, my home town... joeg@gagme.chi.il.us | New Yorker by birth, Minnesotan by choice