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From: graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Graichen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Linux user's comments (since 0.98! :-) on FreeBSD 2.1
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:26:44 GMT
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Jon Thackray (jrmt@uk.gdscorp.com) wrote:
:  - How can I turn off synchronous updates on meta-data under FFS?
:    I'd like my disk to be fast and quiet again! Also, what's the status
:    of the LFS? An incomplete left-over from Berkeley?

on the async meta-data stuff john dyson is currently working - and i
think a bit on lfs too 

:  - Loadable modules don't appear to work out of the box. Compiling the
:    kernel without MSDOS support, and then saying mount_msdos gives
:    '(vfs)cannot find msdos_module'. Sounds about as broken as Linux at
:    the moment ;-)

i don't use msdos - but for procfs & nfs it works fine - is there a
file msdos_mod.o in /lkm ? - moment - no it works in 2.1.0-RELEASE at
least - i installed it last weekend at a friend - i think you must do
anything wrong

:  - Is there any documentation on ext2fs within FreeBSD?
:    How stable is it? (guess I'll have to join the mailing list
:    @freebsd.org)

also john dyson is doing it - it's currently under devellopment (it
works - and should be stable too - but currently thre are no e2fstools
- you may take them from lites - but i don't know it exaclty - i don't
use it)

:  - Linux compatibility compile option? Can I run Linux a.out binaries,
:    and how? I've not got many ELF binaries yet, so I'm not too worried
:    about those.

elf currently not - but it's coming soon (NetBSD currently has it) -
currently only i think qmagic (or were it zmagic) linux a.out binaries
are working (netscape, maple demo, etc.) - you only have to add
'options "COMPAT_LINUX"' to your config file, recompile your kernel
and then run the script /usr/bin/linux to load the linux emulator module

:  - NTFS and VFAT. I've been using the NTFS module under Linux, for
:    mounting Windows NT filesystems read-only. I haven't yet looked at
:    the module structure under FreeBSD, but would it be possible to
:    develop for both, with just a re-compile and a -DFreeBSD? Same goes
:    for VFAT and other useful modules - would be extremely useful :-)

i think that they are too different (but that's just a feeling) - i've
heared that a ntfs driver exists - ask terry lambert
(terry@lambert.org) - maybe he know who has made it

: In summary, both are great systems, each with their strengths. I've
: only been playing with FreeBSD for a week or so, so I can't give much
: more technical information, and I expect I'll use both systems in the
: future.

: I'd like to see more dual-development between the 'camps', for example,
: the NTFS (and other filing systems) loadable modules could run on both
: systems. Also sharing device drivers would be good (but _DON'T_ mention
: the GPL or BSD copyrights, or we'll have another flame war again! :-)

: Most excellent work from Jordan, Linus, and everyone involved in both.
: May the future of free software go from strength to strength :-)

how about a really good working BSD ffs (fast file system) support in
linux ? (FreeBSD has ext2fs support now)

t
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