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From: root@dyson.iquest.net (John S. Dyson)
Subject: Re: BSDI vs Win NT and netscape commerce server
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 23:53:31 GMT
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In article <4ar1vh$co5@news.voicenet.com>, 900RR <900RR> wrote:
>cnordin@hq.vni.net (Craig Nordin) wrote:
>
>
>>If you already know NT and you want to learn as you go, expecting
>>no more than 300,000 hits per day, go NT
>
>Hmmm,
>
>www.microsoft.com AVERAGES 2,000,000 hits per day from over 9,000
>different addresses. 5,000 searches and 100,000 downloads. DAILY.
>
>ftp.microsoft.com handles 300 simultaneous connections with 300,000
>file transactions per week.  6,000 different users login per day.
>
>Each server runs Windows NT Server 3.51 (surprise!) and is a quad
>Pentium SMP Compaq ProLiant with a CDDI card linked to a T3 line (1 T3
>=  44 T1 lines) direct to the Internet. Each box runs this config.
>
Wow!!! You mean that it takes a QUAD (read: 4) processor high-end
Pentium using NT to do the same thing (and probably less) that
ftp.freebsd.org, wcarchive.cdrom.com, ..... does using FreeBSD and
a lowly 100MHz Pentium w/128MB of ram....  I am very impressed, probably
$10K more in hardware making up for the SLOW software!!!!

>
>I think Microsoft would be interested in your theories on that 300,000
>hit/day barrier, given the fact that they do that in less than 1 hour
>at times.
>
I think he was talking about *normal* motherboards....

>
>I need SMP support. - When guys, when? I can get SMP boards for just
>over a grand. With chips!
>
Oh, a normal SMP board -- FreeBSD will be getting SMP probably middle-late of
next year -- kernels are already running, but are kind-of experimental :-).
I would not count BSDI out either!!!!

>
>Netscape Communications Server
>Unix=$1295 NT=$495
>
>Netscape Commerce Server
>Unix=$2995 NT=$1295
>
>Same products, same capabilities. Why  are the unix versions MORE than
>TWICE as much money? Because everything in unix costs LOTS more than
>the NT version. Or is completely free. Very strange.
>
Same capabilities on how-much-more-expensive hardware :-).  I'll guess
that the cost of the hardware differences is more than the cost of the
software differences :-).  Of course the difference in cost might be
because UNIX is considered industrial-strength, and they don't think that
toy-software users will spend lots of money on their applications :-).

John
dyson@freebsd.org