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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!uunet!mcsun!Germany.EU.net!lemis!grog From: grog@lemis.uucp (Greg Lehey) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: [Re: Catch What They're Saying About Us...] Message-ID: <2390@adagio.lemis.uucp> Date: 28 Sep 92 16:48:26 GMT References: <9209252210.AA10552@cognition.PA.DEC.COM> Organization: LEMIS, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany Lines: 47 In article <9209252210.AA10552@cognition.PA.DEC.COM> vixie@PA.dec.com (Paul A Vixie) writes: >Will someone -- ANYONE -- who believes that my previous message (subtitled >"an open letter to Lynne Jolitz") was an attack, please let me know this? Not I. I had intended to stay out of this mess, since my opinion does not diverge greatly from those expressed already. My concerns are something else: >Lynne, I know better. When I read the UNIGRAM article it was an almost >exact reprint of the story you and Bill were telling at the time. There >were statements buried in that article, presented as "facts", which you >and Bill had asserted publically and in private e-mail to me, but which >noone -- NOONE! -- else had ever presented in quite the same way. The >"signature" of the UNIGRAM statements was unmistakably yours or Bill's. I'm going to have to take Paul's word for this. However, this reminds me greatly of another article which recently annoyed me: in the October issue of UNIX Magazin - already mentioned here because of their (IMHO unrealistic) claim that 250,000 copies were already out there - I read: : In fact, there is a great probability that AT&T code is still present : in BSD386. Insiders claim that BSDI deliberately included AT&T code in : BSD386 in order to get to market more quickly. Bill Jolitz stresses : the fact that he was very careful not to copy anything while writing : his extensions. He is not sure if this also applies to the Net/2 tape. This article - signed by the Editor-in-Chief, Juergen Fey - is full of inaccuracies, in particular wrt timing. However, this particular claim is so far off the mark of anything that I have seen on the net (which UNIX Magazin explicitly quoted as a source) that I would really be interested in its source. Therefore questions to all of you who are still reading this thread: 1. Do you believe that BSDI genuinely and deliberately included AT&T code in BSD/386? 2. Do you know anybody who believes it? Before anybody gets the wrong idea, I am myself in no doubt that this claim is incorrect. I also believe it reflects very badly on UNIX Magazin that they have published this claim: it's possible that BSDI could sue them for it unless they can prove the claim. -- Greg Lehey | Tel: +49-6637-1488 LEMIS | Fax: +49-6637-1489 Schellnhausen 2, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany