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From: jkh@violet.berkeley.edu (Jordan K. Hubbard)
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Subject: Re: a monthly FreeBSD magazine (and other *BSD's too)
Date: 15 Dec 1995 15:41:31 GMT
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In article <4arhgi$f0c@felix.junction.net>,
Michael Dillon <michael@okjunc.junction.net> wrote:

>Not true.
>There are no books on FreeBSD which tell people that IP 
>firewalling exists and how to use it, therefore it does NOT exist.

This is a ridiculous assertion.  It's even documented in the handbook,
and that's been freely available on http://www.freebsd.org for some
time.  No, there's no book, but somehow a number of people have still
managed to figure this out.  How 'bout that?  I guess the declining
educational standards of your generation haven't entirely ruined
everyone's abiltity to do the simplest types of research (the reference
to that URL, BTW, is only scattered through about 10 different prominent
locations of the online and installation doc).

You're also assuming that the Linux guy had somehow read about the Linux
firewall features (which were ported from FreeBSD, BTW) in a book.
Just how the hell do you know that?  If he read about it on the net, does
that mean that Linux's firewalling features don't exist?

Frankly, Michael, I wish you'd either write the book yourself or simply shut
your trap.  I read your flame to the other guy about how you'd do it yourself
if only you weren't so gosh-darned busy, didn't have inflamed corns, needed
to take the dog to the vet, etc etc and your excuses have become as tiresome
as have your tirades on the topic.  It's time for you to put up or shut up,
and you can save your feeble excuses for someone stupid enough not to see them
for the cop-outs that they really are.  That someone does not include myself.

>I don't want to see FreeBSD take a backseat to Linux. That would be bad 
>for FreeBSD, bad for Linux and bad for free software in general. The 

Michael, I've always been the first to say that a book would be a very
fine thing to have, but please do us all a favor - stay OFF our side!
You only discredit those who actually have something meaningful to say.

					Jordan