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From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD
Date: 4 Dec 1995 21:51:14 GMT
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nickkral@parker.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Nick Kralevich) writes:

> >FreeBSD makes the latest sources available via SUP.  No, I personally
> >can't check things out of the CVS tree.  I don't know of any single
> >CVS tree that defines the Linux kernel (or userland, for that matter).

Btw., CVS _write_ access for FreeBSD is open to much more people than
the FreeBSD ``core'' team.  The latter is just responsible for
political decisions (currently 14 members), while the commiters' crew
has grown to 55 members by now.

> If you reread the articles I posted, you'll find that 
> cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer), a member of the
> "BSD User Group Hamburg", was complaining about lack of access to the
> changes in FreeBSD.  If a BSD user group member is complaining about
> lack of access, can you imagine a common joe like you or I getting
> access to it?

You apparently never learn, Nick.  You're lurking around for rather
long in the BSD groups, too, but still don't stop bitching. :-(

Martin has _never_ been asking for CVS write access, at least not for
FreeBSD.  I would very likely support his request should he ask.

The general policy is that everybody can get CVS access who's in basic
agreement with the goals of FreeBSD, who proves to be able to work in
a team, who showed a substantial interest and *responsibility* for
FreeBSD matters, and who's believed to be ``trustable''.  Write access
to the repository requires a lot of mutual trust, since we are not
going to hand-hold each one and everybody, nor do we like to repair
too much damage that has been done accidentally.  (We're all humans,
hence we all do err sometimes.)

-- 
cheers, J"org

joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE
Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)