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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.hawaii.edu!ames!hookup!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!newsserver.jvnc.net!newsserver2.jvnc.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.math.psu.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!delmarva.com!udel!wuccrc!not-for-mail From: chuck@ccrc.wustl.edu (Chuck Cranor) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: NetBSD camp reaction to OpenBSD? Date: 3 Dec 1995 16:03:26 -0600 Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO. Lines: 46 Message-ID: <49t6re$ggn@dworkin.wustl.edu> References: <30B6A790.41C67EA6@FreeBSD.org> <49cso4$4st@server.cs.vt.edu> <49lj23$kh3@park.uvsc.edu> <49snmg$kjk@fearsome.tjls.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dworkin.wustl.edu Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1461 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:9712 In article <49snmg$kjk@fearsome.tjls.com>, Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@rek.tjls.com> wrote: >In article <49lj23$kh3@park.uvsc.edu>, >Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> wrote: >>i386 OpenBSD supports bounce buffers. NetBSD should roll in >>the code. >I don't believe that's considered an acceptable solution; we have other ports >that require bounce buffering, and I am told that the OpenBSD code is one of >the patches we've seen before, none of which met the architecture-independence >requirement. True. The OpenBSD bounce buffer code is based on some code that someone tried to contribute to NetBSD. I am unsure if the code was rejected, or just hasn't been looked at yet. I believe the general logic behind putting this code in the OpenBSD tree is that there isn't anyone working on (or planning to work on) doing bounce buffers for OpenBSD in the "NetBSD approved" way any time soon. Given that, it seems like it is better to have a non-NetBSD approved bounce buffer scheme than no scheme at all. If, at some later date, NetBSD comes out with a nice architecture-independent bounce buffer scheme it can certainly be integrated into OpenBSD as well. >The last I checked the README on Theo's web site, it didn't list any differences >between OpenBSD/i386 and NetBSD/i386, and the OpenBSD source was still not >available. If either of these conditions have changed, I'm sure the source >tree will be perused for anything of use to us. Currently, I do not think there are many i386 changes between NetBSD and OpenBSD. You can certainly get the OpenBSD source code. For your purposes, it would be easiest to do it via Anonymous CVS. Just set CVSROOT to "anoncvs@anoncvs.openbsd.org:/cvs" and "cvs checkout -AP src/sys" ... you should then be able to "cvs log" and "cvs diff" various files to see exactly how things have changed. In the future (for openbsd), it would be nice to look at some of the changes the FreeBSD group has made. They've done some cool stuff and it would be great if we could merge some of it in or perhaps work with them in some way. chuck -- Chuck Cranor, Graduate Student Computer and Communications Research Center Washington University, St. Louis MO USA E-Mail: chuck@maria.wustl.edu / cranor@udel.edu