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From: michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD
Date: 03 Dec 1995 07:08:09 GMT
Organization: HeadCandy Associates... Sweets for the lobes.
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In article <49qa85$q80@agate.berkeley.edu> nickkral@parker.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Nick Kralevich) writes:
In article <87rayn8ion.fsf@interbev.mindspring.com>,
Robert Sanders <rsanders@mindspring.com> wrote:
>FreeBSD makes the latest sources available via SUP. No, I personally
>can't check things out of the CVS tree. I don't know of any single
>CVS tree that defines the Linux kernel (or userland, for that matter).
If you reread the articles I posted, you'll find that
cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer), a member of the
"BSD User Group Hamburg", was complaining about lack of access to the
changes in FreeBSD. If a BSD user group member is complaining about
lack of access, can you imagine a common joe like you or I getting
access to it?
If you read more carefully, you'll find he's not complaining about
availability of source changes, he's asking for specific CVS versions
to be retrievable by normal users. There's a big difference. All the
source code, and changes less than a day old are already available.
He just wants to be able to say "give me a diff between
/sys/vm/vm_kern.c version 1.15 and 1.16".
Currently, that is not possible without asking a core member to check
out the two specific back-versions and doing the diff for you.
If you sup the stuff and keep it in your own CVS tree, you can get
this functionality, because daily releases of the current source tree
*are* available. You simply currently have to do your own version
management if you want to retrieve specific back-versions of a file.
But once again, the fact is raised that at least the *BSD groups keep
the entire source tree in a well-managed CVS enlistment system. Is
there any of the native Linux system in such well-managed state?
Could you retrieve a specific kernel file from a specific date for me?
Any commercial company who developed software like that would quickly
go out of business, after their software got buggier and harder to
maintain, and users quit buying the stuff.
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Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com
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