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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.hawaii.edu!ames!hookup!uwm.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!yuma!purdue!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!lotu From: lotu@wam.umd.edu (Arcadio Alivio Sincero) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: Linux vs FreeBSD Date: 2 Dec 1995 13:22:54 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Lines: 59 Message-ID: <49pjve$iql@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <489kuu$rbo@pelican.cs.ucla.edu> <poulosioDI20sJ.5vz@netcom.com> <48buod$cue@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> <poulosioDIFAnC.ECw@netcom.com> <48vcmk$j0v@ionews.io.org> <poulosioDIGuzK.2GK@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rac8.wam.umd.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.advocacy:28807 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:9625 comp.unix.advocacy:11576 comp.unix.misc:19743 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:8905 Mad Max (poulosio@netcom.com) wrote: : Lau (gabe@io.org) wrote: : : So what you're saying is that Linux shouldn't support your drive at all, : : that way, you won't have *anything* to whine about right! : No. If it's on the "compatibility list" it's supported, right? Well, I : found out that when one person somewhere manages to make something work : once, it's deemed "compatible". Just goes to show that you can't believe everything you read. : I BOUGHT the CDs. I did not get them free. If I were FTPing it, you would : have a point in your ranting about my ranting. Have you ever heard of : dissatisfied users? You should fdlame the rogue manufacturers that : produce fucked up CDs, not the victims of their marketing. : Fuck off. Actually, like the other guy pointed out, you're not paying for the software. You're paying for the packaging. Some of the prices I've seen for some of these Linux distributions (like $50 or so) are pretty outrageous. That might be cheap compared to commerical OSes, but considering that you can actually get it free off the 'Net, it's a rip-off. $20 or so is reasonable. Because if you wanna download it off the 'Net and copy it to floppies, $25 or so is how much you'll pay for about 100 fresh floppies (at least around here ... $30 for 100 floppies last I checked). I'm not really flaming you because I can sympathize with what you're going through. I too had a hell of time setting this beast up. But I learned quickly that Linux is very much a "do-it-yourself OS" (which is why I have to disagree with people who say that Linux can become mainstream ... at least in it's current state this is not possible). But it was a great learning experience for me. It was like learning how to use my PC all over again (almost). I remember me ranting and bitching when I first learned DOS like 10 or so years ago. (But I was first learning to use a PC and I was only 9 years old, so I guess that doesn't count.) Anyhow, it almost got to a point where I was gonna dump Linux and stick with OS/2. But now I've gotten so far with Linux, I think I'm gonna stick with it. I kinda like the idea now that I can pretty much hack Linux into anything I want ... and when I reach that level of expertise I think I will ... One more thing, (I haven't read any of your previous posts, but going by what that first guy (BAJ I think) said), this one guy gave me some helpful advice when I first started with Linux concerning getting help: don't flame Linux in a Linux group if you expect to get any help. Makes sense, don't it? If you're feeling emotional, leave it out of the post (start punching the walls or something ...). Arcadio