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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!simtel!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!caen!pm051-29.dialip.mich.net!fprefect From: Matt Slot <fprefect@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc Subject: OpenMac update Date: 20 Oct 1995 03:11:57 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Lines: 36 Distribution: world Message-ID: <46741t$a70@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: @pm051-29.dialip.mich.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.4_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: <ACAC8C5510010688@pm051-29.dialip.mich.net> X-XXDate: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 04:14:29 GMT Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.advocacy:25084 comp.os.linux.development.system:11269 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:1219 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:8582 [ With regards to the OpenMac effort to get the information necessary to port Linux and NetBSD to the Mac and PowerMac platforms... ] I have been in contact with several key evangelists and managers within Apple, in areas like Developer Relations, Developer Tools, and Licensing. Although certain groups have lost 70% of their working budget, they are looking at using engineers from projects that have been cut. I have gotten mail from several people who have sent request messages to various Apple employees with Internet presence. Although gaining mindshare is a good think, repeated requests and "Why isn't Apple doing anything???" messages can generate negative feelings. In fact, my contacts tell me that we are earning a reputation for screaming and whining. I understand that our needs have been neglected for several years, and that we are *fighting* to get what we want. However, my efforts are meeting with success and I would ask that we tone down the advocacy for a few months. Its gonna take at least that long to get the necessary resources assigned, gather the documents, and put them in some sort of reasonable order. I can't say that its gonna be here next week or next month, but I have asked to be kept informed about our progress. I will relay the status of our dialog as it comes across the wire. What I really need is to be kept informed about what the OpenMac projects need documented. Send me a line, and I will add it to our list and forward it to the right people. Thanks Alot, Matt Slot OpenMac Administrator For more info: <http://puma.bevd.blacksburg.va.us/openmac/>