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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!OzEmail!usenet From: "Hanns B. Wetzel" <hbw@ozemail.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: PPP and/or SLIP logins under simulated Internet etc. Date: 22 Oct 1995 02:29:29 GMT Organization: InterBayNet Lines: 132 Message-ID: <46caa9$sdr@oznet07.ozemail.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: slbri1p57.ozemail.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-------------------------------20200102732041" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: jkh@FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------20200102732041 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone out there please read the attached file and tell where to find the answers to my questions. It's no fun continuing to go round and round in apparent circles. Any help is very much appreciated in advance. Hanns B. Wetzel Hervey Bay Qld Australia ---------------------------------20200102732041 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Recently I purchased the Walnut Creek FreeBSD 2.0.5 cdroms and installed it on a 520MB HDD on my 486DX2-50 intel box with 20MB ram.The system appears to be running fairly well. Very stable in text mode, but it does suffer from random hangs under X11 R6 3.1.1 when running xearth in the background. When that happens, it stops dead completely. No response to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace or any other key(s) or mouse. Turning off the power is then the only way to get things going again. I think this is a major flaw because after all thatis why we are running Unix instead of DOS based OS's, since Unix is supposed have the ability to run processes independently. I hope X11 R6 3.1.2 and/orFReeBSD 2.1. will overcome this because xearth is a very nice background. There is possibly also a problem with xearth, because when running top it shows processor usage as high as 36+% every time xearth updates the image. Don't know wether that is as it should be or an indication of something wrong. Now for my next and more serious questions. Am using FreeBSD on a small box attempting to set up an ISP test environment in two ways:- 1. Simulated Internet Have pppd running to accept logins from other machines running Trumpet Winsock, Windows TCP/IP or whatever. Have my machine running httpd "serving" html files and othe stuff that exists on my machine's HDD. Now there are several apparent problems: Although there are no problems with ordinary logins via modem as a simple user, I cannot get ijppp to work in server mode despite exactly following the steps set out in its manpage. I might add here that it must be the world's worst example of a man page (and the sample conf files are almost totally incomprehensible), the sentence after "MORE DETAILS" needs quoting in full; "Please read the Japanese doc for complete explanation. It may not be useful for non-japanese readers, but examples in the document may help you to guess." Is this a joke??? Toshiharu OHNO is obviously a brilliant programmer, but please, could he show a little concern for us lesser mortals who are spending countless hours trying to get ijppp to work and do not know the japanese language, or even in desperation, would like to get the "japanese doc" translated by a friend, but have no idea in the world where to find it. Also I frequently use ijppp under X11 R6 3.1.1 as a client side process in interactive mode using manual dialing, with either Netscape 1.1.2 or Chimera. Nearly every session it simply stops running at least once for no apparent. There are no error messages, just the normal diagnostic message "write: No such process" followed by my FreeBSD command prompt. Running ps shows that it has in fact exited. To be able to get a system like FreeBSD plus all the utilities that come with it for $39.95 plus freight is absolutely tremendous. However why is there is no explanation anywhere that pppd has been disabled in the kerel configuration and replaced by the "tunnel device". The first we get to know about it after going to a great deal of effort locating the ppp.FAQ on the Internet (I live in a rural area in Australia where phone charges to my nearest ISP are between $8 and $20 per hour depending on time of day), getting C-Kermit via ftp, compiling it, establishing its files in the correct directories, learning (to some extent) how to use it, writing the appropriate kermit scripts, pppd configuration files, then finally after many hours trying it out, only to be told "Sorry - PPP is not available on this system" So then we forget all about all the time we have spent poring over the pppd manpages and install the ijppp package, and that is where this story began. Now please can someone (hopefully someone like Jordan Hubbard) tell me why ppp was diabled in the kernel. Can I rebuild the kernel with both ppp and tun as pseudo devices and can I have more than one instance of each (for example in the slip.FAQ, Satoshi Asami states "first make sure you have pseudo-device sl 2"), or must there be either one or the other. Why are there only one instace of these devices in the 2.0.5 GENERIC kernel. I have been talking about ppp because from what I have read and been told, ppp is a far better procol than slip, but while I am waiting hopefully for some clear answers, I will try and get sliplogin to run in the meantime and that may become another story :-(. 2. Real Internet The foregoing has been attempted without a connection to the Internet and using 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0. As stated above, ppplogin, as described in the ijppp manpage has flatly refued to work. I think that perhaps my /etc/hosts, /etc/sysconfig, /etc/networks, /etc/host.conf and perhaps /etc/resolv.conf may not have the IP addresses configured correctly. My question now is:- Do I need a real Internet address to test drive either PPP or SLIP logins or can (as should be possible) it be done under simulated conditions as inicated above. Once the login problems are solved, my intention is to then try and run sendmail, innd, and ftpd under the same simulated conditions. So far I have httpd 3.0 running fine locally and can access it with both Chimera and Netscape 1.1.2 by having httpd.conf configured to pass whatever directory as a URL. It should therefore be possible to do the same from another machine connecting to my FreeBSD host via modem through either PPP or SLIP???? So how is it done. Whover can help me find the answers to these questions will have my undying gratitude, because I am too old and no longer have the time to go back to University and try and get a Computer Science Degree on the one hand, and cannot afford to pay a professional the going rate here, which is about $120 per hour, to come and set everything up for me on the other hand. Hanns B. Wetzel Hervey Bay, QLD Australia ---------------------------------20200102732041--