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From: jaykuri@wwa.com (Jason Kuri)
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Subject: The Broken ATI Mach64... correct me if I'm wrong...
Date: 24 Sep 1995 01:49:39 GMT
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Summary: Take your Mach64 card back or wait....
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  Ok,  so after reading many posts and lots of research, this is what it 
all comes down to:

  On the ATI Mach64 (winturbo, Xpression, etc) the original chip was a 
Chrontel CH8398.  This is what was on the original cards, and it is what 
the XF86_Mach64 server supports.  ATI, however, in all its wisdom, has 
replaced this chip with an AT&T chip (AT&T 20C408) which is not 
supported in the XF86_Mach64 server (nor any other as far as I can tell).  

  The XF86_Mach64 server has to be patched to work with this chip.  I am 
not sure when this will happen, but I am pretty sure people are working 
on it  (anyone who knows more about that is more than welcome to hop 
in.)  

  What this means to us sorry SOBs who have that model of card with the 
AT&T chip is that we don't get to run X in anything more than 640x480.  
So if you got that Fancy ATI Xpression card and are just dying to watch 
Xwindows fly... Sit back, relax, have a drink... there is going to be a 
slight delay before takeoff.

  If anyone has more information about this, posting it would be greatly 
appreciated.  Also if anyone knows of a competitively priced card that 
offers comperable performance (to the Original Mach64s) in X, please PLEASE 
let us know.

 As an aside, (and in defense of ATI?) I want to say that I have a VLB ATI 
Xpression card (with the Chrontel chip) and it works beautifully.  I 
also have a PCI version of the same card and it does not.

Jay Kuri

PS- Thanks to all those who mailed or posted in response to my earlier 
    posts about this.

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Mind you, I don't mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what 
there is particularly dead about a door-nail.  I might have been 
inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of 
ironmongery in the trade.