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From: geert@dfki.uni-kl.de (Geert Bosch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Extremely low memory system
Date: 18 Sep 1995 17:37:37 GMT
Organization: DFKI (Deutsches Forschungsinstitut f"ur K"unstliche Intelligenz)
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:   We're about to experiment with turning old machines that are replaced
:   into xterminals.  The current guess is to install linux & xfree86 o
:   them; i don't think we have anything short of 4M386's (acutally, 486's
:   may fall out for this use).
:
:   The only duty of such a thing would be to serve as an xhost over telnet
:   through the univeristy network (which isn't overloaded).
:
:   Are we doomed?  is this enough?  Will paginging do us in?
:
:In a word: miserable.  As in, I believe the performance would be
:miserable and nobody would have any desire to do real work on them.

B*llsh*t. I've worked a lot on a 5 MB SPARC system, running SunOS 4.1.3
which was being used as an X terminal for an high-end HP workstation. It works
perfectly well and actually, because the Sun had such a nice screen (better than
are standard nowadays) and a good optical mouse, it was one of the nicer 
systems to work with.  
Since SPARC code takes more memory than Intel 80x86 code, 4 MB on an Intel should 
be comparable. A good (fast) graphics adapter and monitor are more important. In that
area the PC's could be a little too light. For running X 1024x768 @ 70 Hz is the absolute
minimum, and for that resolution you should use an accelerated card.

::I wouldn't recommend anything less than 8MB for X.  And, 16MB is
:really where it starts getting "nice".
Don't be confused by running the *complete* multi-user OS plus the X-Server. 
A bare X server doesn't need nearly that much. If you aren't going to run any applications
on the system, 4 MB is sufficient, and 8 MB is plenty. As I remember there is a bare XKernel
configuration: just the kernel with an X-server: no real OS will be loaded. 


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