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From: michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Ultimate BSD PC Hardware Setup
Date: 18 Sep 1995 23:12:17 GMT
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In-reply-to: rcarter@best.com's message of 17 Sep 1995 19:58:54 -0700

In article <43in9e$210@shell1.best.com> rcarter@best.com (Russell Carter) writes:

   In article <MICHAELV.95Sep17014633@MindBender.HeadCandy.com>,
   Michael L. VanLoon <michaelv@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> wrote:

   >Personally, I'd buy an NCR 53c810-based SCSI card, or a BusLogic,
   >before I'd ever give money to Adaptec.  But, to each his/her own.

   Just a little bit curious, but Michael L. VanLoon, how many FreeBSD
   systems do you have experience with?  Have you ever tried to connect a
   PCI controller to a drive?  I thought you only had EISA experience.
   Now the NCR is a fine controller but there are a couple of drives that
   it is not happy with, and you really ought to not plant bombs here.

Just because my only system at home is EISA-based doesn't mean I have
no experience with other platforms.  In fact, I have set up two
different PCI systems.  I have used the NCR card, and it worked just
great.  I have also heard enough reports on the BusLogic card to know
it works adequately.  And, finally, I have heard enough reports on
Adaptec's policies, some of them recent, that I maintain my stand that
I have no intention of ever supporting them with my money.

Have I ever connected a PCI controller to a drive?  Why, yes --
several.  And, what does FreeBSD have to do with it?  I thought NetBSD
and FreeBSD used cousins of the same SCSI system.  It hasn't diverged
*that* much.  Besides, I read your groups and see plenty reports of
working systems.  I have yet to see a report of a drive the NCR *just*
*won't* work with.  But, if you can prove there are such drives, I'll
take your word for it.  Do these also not work with the BusLogic card?

   Maybe more to the point, does NetBSD support the Quantum Grand Prix
   series?  Or even more to the point, Microsoft?  That's who is paying
   your wages these days, right?

Does NetBSD support the Quantum Grand Prix?  I really don't know.  Is
there something really special about that drive that would make NetBSD
not work with it?  (Keep in mind I don't write the SCSI code, and
there is really no reason for me to know this unless I bought one.)
My smaller, slower Quantum drives work fine on my BusLogic card.

Does Microsoft work with the Grand Prix?  Dunno.  Microsoft is a
company.  Does Windows 95 work with it?  Probably -- I wouldn't be
surprised if it used it in PIO mode.  Does Windows NT?  Couldn't tell
you -- but then again, why should I care?

What does who pays my wages have to do with my post on recommended
SCSI controllers for *BSD?  Do you see "Microsoft" anywhere in my sig?
The minute they have anything to say about what OS I run in my spare
time (NetBSD) is the minute I find another employer.

I stand by my post.  Note that I did not recommend the NCR as the only
solution -- I also recommended the BusLogic.  You failed to address
that in your post.

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  Michael L. VanLoon                                 michaelv@HeadCandy.com
       --<  Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x  >--
     NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, HP300, Sun3, Sun4,
                           DEC PMAX (MIPS), DEC Alpha, PC532
     NetBSD ports in progress: VAX, Atari 68k, others...
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