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From: Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: I have one thing to say about Windows '95 & FreeBSD
Date: 2 Sep 1995 09:15:39 GMT
Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah
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adt@netcom.com (Anthony D. Tribelli) wrote:
]
] Amancio Hasty, Jr. (hasty@rah.star-gate.com) wrote:
] : Oh, I don't know it was my first experience with Win95.5 and I am not
] : proclaiming to be an expert on Win95.5 . However, the fault of the real problem 
] : lies with Win95.5 and not with me . As I said before if Win95.5 
] : had detected a config.sys problem it should have tried to prompt
] : the user or default booting to dos . My point is that at the time
] : I had no idea how to fix the problem from the Win95.5 side of things.
] 
] Did you consider looking at documentation? The option to step through 
] config.sys is not very hard to find. I'm sorry, your complaint still 
] seems weak and contrived.

Actually, the function key commands are kind of non-intuitive;
the multiboot=1 in the config.sys is easier, but about as well
documented as how to use regedit to turn of exploding windows.

8-).

] I suppose you have never had to look at books, documentation, FAQs, etc...
] to get FreeBSD working? 

Yes; but Win95 users are claiming FreeBSD isn't easy to use in
this thread; what you are saying instead is that Win95 is as easy
to use as FreeBSD.  8-).

] : Lets see, since Win95 has multitasking does it support paging or does
] : all the process' space needs to reside in memory?
] 
] I believe each Win32 app receives 2G of virtual address space.

Sort of, except for the shared areas.  Note that "address space"
and "mapped pages" are not synonymous, so you can't really use the
whole address space.

There are a whole lot of design issues stacked against VMM, though
you *can* overcome most of them if you resort to a bit of hackery
to do it.

] : Does Win95 provide pre-emptive scheduling for 32bit applications?
] 
] The Win32 apps are fully pre-emptive. Win16 apps do not pre-empt eachother
] though, compatibility problem. 

When you run a 16 bit app, the whole machine goes into cooperative
task switching mode with the 16 bit apps.  The 32 bit apps remain
preemptive within their run context -- that is, when they are in
their cooperative time slice and a 16 bit app isn't, they preempt.


                                        Terry Lambert
                                        terry@cs.weber.edu
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