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From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Chris Mauritz)
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD
References: <409iah$inf@galaxy.ucr.edu> <40alp5$psg@agate.berkeley.edu> <413bkc$3t2@kadath.zeitgeist.net> <1995Aug24.222509.28085@state.systems.sa.gov.au>
Organization: Mordor International
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 16:17:32 GMT
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chdemgt@state.systems.sa.gov.au wrote:
: In article <413bkc$3t2@kadath.zeitgeist.net>, "Amancio Hasty, Jr." <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> writes:
: > nickkral@parker.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Nick Kralevich) wrote:
: >>In article <409iah$inf@galaxy.ucr.edu>,
: >>jignesh bhadaliya <jignesh@corsa.ucr.edu> wrote:
: >>> I know this question must have been asked before.  Which is better
: >>>Linux or FreeBSD?  
: >>
: >>Linux.
: >>
: >>>What's the difference?  
: > 
: > 
: >>Linux is better.  :-)
: > 
: > Nah, is just more fashionable to run linux 
: > 
: > Well, if you are good are catching flies then you do extremely well 
: > with linux;however, if you are cool and like to sit back and update
: > your system like this:
: > 
: > sup standard-supfile
: > cd /usr/src
: > make world
: > 
: > Then freebsd is for you !
: > About docs? You really need a lot of docs for linux :)
: But then, there is a lot of Linux.
: > FreeBSD is BSD-4.4-lite which is well documented...
: > 
: Someone said FreeBSD handles swapping better.  Linux slows to a near-
: standstill when it starts to swap.  That does not happen with FreeBSD, which
: can handle a larger number of concurrent logins without taking a noticeable
: performance hit.  That is what I have been told and I have no reason to doubt
: it.  The swap slice on FreeBSD is typically much larger than the Linux
: swap partition.  Shadow passwords are standard on FreeBSD but an additional
: thing that on Linux you have to compile and install in place of the non-
: shadow programs (e.g. login) in the distribution.  At least, that was true
: of Slackware last time I looked.

I'm running a stock 2.0.5R system on an AMD dx2-80 with 16mb RAM as a
web server.  I got over 300k hits yesterday and the machine was still
running at 85-90% idle.  I have a feeling that linux would have puked
on that kind of network load.


: I should say that my download of FreeBSD crashed and I only have half a system. 
: Possibly I am downloading sources and compiling programs that are already in
: the FreeBSD distribution.  But that brings up another point - the opacity of
: the FreeBSD distribution - there are split giant files, so that you can't see
: what's there and have to take the lot.  To do a basic Linux installation you
: have to download the contents of 5 or 6 floppies, and after the first two you
: can inspect the files there and make a selection.  In this respect FreeBSD is
: off-putting, especially if you have to do it over a 9600 bps link.

My install went like this:

create boot disk
reboot machine with boot disk
run install
point the installer at ftp.cdrom.com
tell it to install the works
go eat lunch
come back an hour later and reboot the machine
Welcome to FreeBSD

The web server was built/configured and in production within 5 hours
of starting the above process and has handled several million web
hits in since then (maybe 2 weeks ago).  I couldn't be more pleased.
When I see sites with Sparcs (running slowlaris) being brought to
their knees with half of my load I just chuckle.  :-)

Regards,

Chris

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