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From: farrow@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (J. Scott Farrow)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,misc.int-property,alt.suit.att-bsdi
Subject: Re: Are you sure UNIX is a trade mark?
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Date: 12 Sep 92 23:49:21 GMT
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bzs@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:

[...]
>P.S. Realizing that someone who knows little or nothing about these
>matters will now decide that it doesn't fit his/her world view of the
>algorithmic reduction of trademark law to a single well-defined
>sentence here is a cite:

>Foster & Shook, Patents, Copyrights & Trademarks, John Wiley & Sons,
>1989, p 183-4.

>"Once you have a patent or copyright, you do not risk losing your
>rights if you make a poor choice of a licensee. In the case of a
>trademark, however, you do run that risk...you can lose your rights by
>licensing to someone whom you do not require to maintain your standard
>of quality...When you lose control of the quality, public deception
>occurs, as the mark no longer indicates what people expect from the
>product..."

>--
>        -Barry Shein

Hmmm. In the AT&T/USL vs. BSDI/Berkeley case I think we have the opposite 
situation. AT&T has let numerous companies improve upon its product and now
still want the credit. To paraphrase the above, the product (AT&T SysV, 32/V,
Destiny, etc...) no longer represents what people expect of the "trademark" 
ie. "UNIX".

This is going to be an extremely interesting case.

Scott

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