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Xref: sserve gnu.misc.discuss:6197 comp.org.eff.talk:9022 comp.unix.bsd:4912 comp.os.mach:2114 misc.int-property:504 Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,misc.int-property,alt.suit.att-bsdi Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!constellation!unmvax!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!agate!boulder!ucsu!fido.Colorado.EDU!farrow From: farrow@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (J. Scott Farrow) Subject: Re: Are you sure UNIX is a trade mark? Message-ID: <farrow.716248205@fido.Colorado.EDU> Sender: news@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: fido.colorado.edu Reply-To: farrow@fido.Colorado.EDU Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder References: <KANDALL.92Sep9170758@globalize.nsg.sgi.com> <farrow.716074432@fido.Colorado.EDU> <18ns8rINNd81@agate.berkeley.edu> Distribution: inet Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:50:05 GMT Lines: 48 ag@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Gabryelski) writes: >In article <farrow.@fido.Colorado.EDU> farrow@fido.Colorado.EDU writes: >>>In article <KANDALL.92Sep9170758@sgi.com> (Michael Kandall) writes: >>>The term "UNIX" has not fallen into common use in the sense than it refers >>>to any "UNIX-like" product. >> >>The hell it hasn't! AT&T/USL are several years too late. I was using >>UN*X for over a year before I even heard of AT&T System V. At CU >>Boulder, we don't even have any SysV machines that I know of, yet we >>refer to all of our UN*X boxes as "UNIX". [...] >> >>Any other opinions? >I noticed that in the paragraph above you used `UN*X' instead of >`UNIX' to refer to OSs that were not UNIX but did have some >capabilities of UNIX. >Is this because you are competely aware of the difference? >I would say `USL' is not *too* late. >Pax, Keith [...] I was attempting to differentiate my use of the the word "UNIX" and what we are discussing, which is whether or not that use is proper. You missed my point, Keith. I maintain that the OS's I was referring to are indeed UNIX. For reference, I've worked with Ultrix, AIX, Dynix, BSD, HP-UX, and Concentrix and I consider them to all be UNIX. Certainly there are differences between these products and that of AT&T, but the similarities far outweigh/outnumber the differences (IMHO), hence my use of the word. As someone in another article (sorry I don't have the reference) mentioned, a lot of common words today were once trademarks, like "zipper", for instance. The comanies lost their trademark when the word became common usage. I think that is exactly what has happened/should happen to AT&T. Scott -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Scott Farrow - Student Programmer & Operator, Computing & Network Services University of Colorado at Boulder, InterNet: farrow@spot.colorado.edu, farrow@hazelrah.cs.colorado.edu, Phone: (303) 492-4428