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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!simtel!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!news.duke.edu!agate!violet.berkeley.edu!jkh From: jkh@violet.berkeley.edu (Jordan K. Hubbard) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: The Future of FreeBSD... Date: 6 Aug 1995 15:01:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 23 Message-ID: <402lg2$7gt@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <3uktse$d9c@hal.nt.tuwien.ac.at> <3vggp3$jvb@felix.junction.net> <3vkp33$jl6@bonnie.tcd-dresden.de> <id.547M1.T75@nmti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu In article <id.547M1.T75@nmti.com>, Peter da Silva <peter@nmti.com> wrote: >In article <3vkp33$jl6@bonnie.tcd-dresden.de>, >J Wunsch <joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de> wrote: >> >What is it about Visual TCL that makes you prefer it to TCL/Tk? > >> The ability to run also on a standard terminal? > >ftp://ccfadm.eeg.ccf.org/pub/ctk/ctk4.0b1.tar.gz Uh. I've looked at this, and all I can say is that while it looks like a cute idea, I wouldn't have to be one to actually use it.. :) No offense to the author in intended, but it's not really something that I think provides sufficient capabilities in BOTH areas of direct usability and quality of abstraction. Try taking a serious look at it from the point of view of someone actually stuck with crafting a production quality interface with it. There are big holes. I think that emulating something as broad-based as Tk was the fundamental mistake the author couldn't get around. You need to go one level higher up for your forms and layouts to both look good and be easy to use. Jordan