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From: mullens@jamsun.ic.ornl.gov (James A. Mullens)
Subject: Re: Some more on NMI problems (some meager advancement)
Message-ID: <1992Sep8.181528.3876@ornl.gov>
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Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
References: <1992Sep7.014351.946@ponds.uucp> <cproto.715945053@marsh>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:15:28 GMT
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In article <cproto.715945053@marsh>, cproto@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Computer Protocol) writes:
|> rivers@ponds.uucp (Thomas David Rivers) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >Well, I thought I would relay my current status with the NMI
|> >investigation.
|> 
|> >  Right now, I'm thinking it has something to do with an IDE
|> > controller/disk drive, so I have been examining the wd.c driver
|> > trying to divine what it might be; without too much luck. (I 
|> > know very little about the IDE/WD disk controllers.)
|> 
|> [STUFF DELETED]
|> 
|> >  - Dave Rivers -
|> >   (rivers@ponds.uucp)
|> 
|> I'm also experiencing the problem. I disagree with the IDE controller
|> idea. I still think it's a spurious parity error. Note that the NMI
|> interrupt reports the value of I/O port 61. This value has the highest
|> bit set which indicates a parity error. But after running QAPLUS for
|> several days I'm convinced my memory is ok.
|> 
|> Could it be some sort of setup problem - e.g. wait states which can
|> be configured in my AMI BIOS.
|> 
|> BTW I do have a IDE controller/disk so Dave might be right.

Memory parity errors can also be the fault of the system board/bus
controller.  You really need to check for errors while your system
is "highly loaded" -- lots of I/O going on.  A memory tester may not
be able to see the problem otherwise...

I once had a completely-reproducible NMI which could not be found by
a tester.  It seems that my computer's "bus tended to be unstable
during periods of high load" and the chips I had purchased did not
tolerate this very well.  I switched chip manufacturers and the computer
has run w/o problems ever since.  This was so long ago that I
can't recommend the manufacturer, NMBS, on this basis.  In fact, I
visited our PC repair shop and found a notice that, FOR A CERTAIN MODEL
OF COMPUTER, NMBS and Siemens DRAM "will cause problems".  (Assume that
is someone's theory, not an authority's pronouncement!  Don't read too
much into this since -- it just indicates that not all motherboards
and DRAM mix well).  You might call your computer/system-board manufacturer
and try to get a recommendation.

I have also read a recommendation that 3-chip and 9-chip SIMMs not be
mixed together, but I have no real reason to believe this makes a
difference.

jim mullens
  Internet: jcm@ornl.gov		(128.219.128.17)
            mullens@jamsun.ic.ornl.gov	(128.219. 64.31)

I speak for myself, not for the organization I work for.