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#! rnews 2751 sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au Xref: sserve comp.sys.powerpc:41714 comp.sys.intel:39111 comp.unix.bsd:16662 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:8657 comp.unix.sys5.r4:9870 comp.unix.misc:17460 comp.os.linux.development:24440 comp.os.linux.misc:49337 comp.os.386bsd.development:3341 comp.os.386bsd.misc:5711 comp.os.misc:4080 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nexus.coast.net!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!kaleka.seanet.com!news.seanet.com!not-for-mail From: kanefsky@datamagic.com (Steve Kanefsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.intel,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.misc Subject: Re: X on dial-in Date: 22 Jun 1995 08:22:45 -0700 Organization: Data Magic Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3sc1s5$67e@datamagic.com> References: <3f44s2$jqm@maverick.maverick.tad.eds.com> <3fv9sg$8dp@villa.fc.net> <3s2pes$5f6@sundog.tiac.net> <3s49a5$1988@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: kanefsky1.seanet.com In article <3s49a5$1988@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Ken Kriesel, Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison <kkriesel@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote: >rmk@rmkhome.com (Rick Kelly) wrote: > >> Thank your lucky Texas stars. Here in Framingham, Massachusetts it would >> cost me $595 per month to have a 24 hour per day ISDN line that goes directly >> to a Cisco router and T1, and $245 per month for ISDN that connects through a >> POP to an ISDN that is shared among many users. Never mind the $600-800 >> installation charge. These are both flat rate plans through ISPs, a direct >> through NYNEX ISDN line would be $1000+ per month with the per minute charges. > >Now that's an obscenely high charge. Charge rates ought to at most >scale with bandwidth, and an ordinary voice channel doesn't cost anything >like that much on a per-bandwidth basis. I suppose it will take a while >for rational pricing to settle in. (like the old days when you could >suddenly get charged a lot more, if modem tones were discovered on >your voice line!) Aren't we comparing apple's and oranges here? It sounds like some people are just quoting rates for the ISDN line from the phone company, or perhaps for an ISDN line plus a limited account with an ISP, whereas the poster who quoted the $595 price was clearly talking about a 24 hour/day dedicated ISDN line to the Internet (most likely with routing for an entire network). Just the ISP charge for a dedicated 28.8k modem line is typically $150/month. Frame relay, which is probably the most cost efficient way to get 128k bandwidth, typically costs $275-425/month just for the ISP charges, not counting what the telephone company charges you for the line at all. -- Steve Kanefsky