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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nexus.coast.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!dial27.ppp.iastate.edu!marcus From: marcus@ccelab.iastate.edu (Marcus I. Ryan) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 10:01:23 LOCAL Organization: Iowa State University Lines: 51 Message-ID: <marcus.129.00299ABA@ccelab.iastate.edu> References: <3qfhhv$7uc@titania.pps.pgh.pa.us> <3sb2sr$rl8@pandora.sdsu.edu> <3scfhp$sno@park.uvsc.edu> <3sd2ml$16e@pandora.sdsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial27.ppp.iastate.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <3sd2ml$16e@pandora.sdsu.edu> larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes: >From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) >Subject: Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD >Date: 23 Jun 1995 00:43:00 GMT [snip] >My point was that many VIPs (not all) for major products are there in the >USENET newsgroup and so it is not asking very much for the developers of >FreeBSD to do the same. I don't see that it takes any less time to read >N mail messages than N USENET articles, so I think this is where people >could assume that it takes developers takes less time to read the mailing >list because the "noise" level is lower, which to me implies that using a >mailing list filters out that noise, which is where a perception by the >users of exclusivity on the part of the developers could come. [snip] Actually, I have yet to see a day go by where at least one of Jeorg, Nate, or Jordan DON'T post messages, answer questions, etc. I have yet to ask a question and not get a response from at least one (and sometimes all) of the above FreeBSD Core Team members. I don't know where anyone got the impression that the core team avoids the newsgroups. I think the point that was being made is that not everyone that could possibly help answer a question reads the newsgroup for whatever reason. As you said, "My point was that many VIPs (not all) for major products are there". ^^^^^^^^^ How many more than 3 would you like? That doesn't even include the non-core members that devote a large amount of time to helping people (like Terry Lambert). Of all the questions I've asked, I've only failed to get a response once, and that was because people had not all moved from the 386bsd.* hierarchy over to here yet. The first message got no responses. The second message, appropriately cross-posted got well over 30 responses, including responses from Terry, 3 core-team members, and many other people. Just a quick question: What do you mean when you say the Linux groups seem more "Professional"? Are you referring to their employment status? I've never actually seen serious flaming in this group until this linux argument exploded. Even then, almost everyone (maybe one or two exceptions) has acted quite professionally (Argue, counter-argue, etc., not FreeBSD Rules, Linux Sucks! :) Just curious... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Marcus I. Ryan |*Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice Asst. SysAdmin, CCE Labs | doggie!' until you can find a rock. Iowa State University |-------------------------------------- shad@iastate.edu |*Diplomacy - Letting someone else have (515) 294-0715 | things your way. ----------------------------------------------------------------