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From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD
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Date: 23 Jun 1995 21:39:33 GMT
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j@bonnie.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) wrote:
> Larry Riedel <larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu> wrote:
> >I don't think the average user wants to have to subscribe to a mailing
> >list if they have a question about the product for which they would
> >like to get an authoritative answer - [...]
> 
> Umm, did Terry advise you to *subscribe* to that mailing list?  Nope.

No, he did not advise that I do anything since I didn't ask the question.


> He simply told you to mail the question to questions@freebsd.org.  Of
> course, when somebody's replying to your question, he _will_ send you
> a copy!  (Or rather just the opposite: he will send you the answer and
> a copy to the list.)

My point was that I think if FreeBSD wants to have as good a reputation
for convenient access to technical support of the users by the developers
as Linux, then a newsgroup should be considered the "correct" place for
asking questions which will be read by the developers.


> >If I post a question to comp.lang.perl.misc, [etc.etc.etc.]
> 
> If you're posting a question here, you'll see Jordan Hubbard, Terry
> Lambert, Peter da Silva, Brian Tao, Stefan Esser (in case you've got
> the regexp [Pp][Cc][Ii] in the subject), ..., and me answering it.

And that is great, but my article was a response to a statement that
the "correct" place for the question is in the mailing list because
some significant developers do not have enough news-reading time.


> Usenet round-trip times are usually longer than mailing list rtt's, so
> expect your question being answered somewhat later.  Timezone differ-
> ences provide for another skew.

I am more concerned about visibility and easy access, not round-trip time,
since I think it is pretty good for both.


> >I don't see any good reason why the people involved with the
> >development of FreeBSD should not be reading comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
> >and answering questions.  The traffic in this group is relatively quite
> >light, [...]
> 
> This is a total understatement.  It takes me two or three hours each
> day to dig through the questions and answer where i think i can give
> an at least somewhat useful answer.  Given the fact that two or three
> hours per day is the absolute maximum for many of us, what do you
> think is better at the end: spending at least 80 % of that time into
> improving the system, or spending at least 80 % of that time into
> watching Usenet?

I think that if there were 100 hackers responding to questions in
this group then it would not take each one 80% of their time!

I read almost every article in this group, and I don't think READING
the articles takes that much time.  I think POSTING articles is what
takes time, and if that load were distributed among many more people,
then the load on each would be reasonable.


> You are quite welcome to be our Usenet Master and dispatch the
> question to the people responsible.  You are also quite welcome to
> contribute to the system in any other way (including writing
> documentation, fixing bugs etc.)

Thanks!


>                                   It's a lame excuse to say: ``I don't
> have any clues about that system, sorry, I just cannot do this.''

Then I won't say that!  :)


> Unfortunately, i've never ever seen your name in such context.

Nice dig.  I take back what I said the other day about that I would
be happy and grateful to have received your help!  :)


> Unlink Brian Tao, Jordan Hubbard, Terry Lambert, Peter da Silva, John
> Dyson, John Fieber, Dave Burgess (who's not directly related to FreeBSD,
> but maintains a nice FAQ), Stefan Esser, Frank Durda, hmm, i'm sure i've
> forgotten a lot of them!

Gods one and all!


Larry