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From: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD
Date: 22 Jun 1995 03:58:00 GMT
Organization: Institute of Biomedical Sciences, Academia Sinica
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In article <3sa7tg$fu9@park.uvsc.edu>, Terry Lambert  <terry@cs.weber.edu> wrote:
>nickkral@sextans.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Nick Kralevich) wrote:
>] When I typed the same thing on my Linux machine, I was able to toggle
>] the loopback IFF_BROADCAST flag easily.
>
>Bogus!  It should have given you the same error message!
[etc...]

    With all this broken behaviour, is it any wonder there's actually
a Linux distribution called "Bogus"?  At least they admit it.  ;-)

>OK, here's a nub:  the FreeBSD system conforms to the RFC's, and
>the RFC's do not follow "the rule of least astonishment".
>
>So it may in fact be "counter intuitive", but it *is* working like
>it's supposed to.

    Amen, brother.  :)

>] But I'm hoping some one will help me with my FreeBSD problems.
>
>The correct place for the networking questions is the mailing list
>questions@freebsd.org; the people who maintain that code don't have
>a lot of news-reading time and probably won't respond.  Their
>responses are certain to be more in-depth than my own on these
>particular topics.

    Don't believe that, Nick.  Terry's likely to treat you to a
detailed analysis of your problem, including historical significance
of prototypical behaviour, implementation details on other platforms,
speculative reasoning on what should or should not be done about the
problem, as well as a brief mention (at the very least) of every
conceivable topic tangential to the question at hand.  If you ask a
question and Terry answers, be prepared for a nice, long read.  :)
-- 
Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao
taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org