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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!simtel!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.starnet.net!wupost!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!saturn!larryr From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Slight flame from Linux user Date: 12 Jun 1995 15:15:42 GMT Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences Lines: 45 Message-ID: <3rhln0$55a@pandora.sdsu.edu> References: <3qq5i8$2jj@anshar.shadow.net> <3qqotb$sla@hamilton.maths.tcd.ie> <D9nMI9.Lys@midway.uchicago.edu> <D9pJBs.KG4@plato.ds.boeing.com> <GPALMER.95Jun7001333@westhill.cdrom.com> <3r4f25$c5j@hamilton.maths.tcd.ie> <3r9t63$31c@anshar.shadow.net> <3rboo0$q5j@hamilton.maths.tcd.ie> <3rg9jv$2qf@pandora.sdsu.edu> <3rhckp$3n6@hamilton.maths.tcd.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn.sdsu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Timothy Murphy (tim@maths.tcd.ie) wrote: > larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes: > > > I don't even believe there is such an animal as a "unix install & > > > admin" any more. There are people who run Unix on their PCs, and > > > there are people who run DOS/Windows. > > > So the people running Unix on their PCs are doing everything that > > animal used to do? Or are the things that animal used to do not > > done at all any more? > > You don't have to be a Ken Thompson to run Linux or FreeBSD on your 486 > at home. In my experience it is no more difficult than DOS/Windows, > and is more rewarding. > > I don't know why so many people on this group spend their time telling > the world how difficult FreeBSD is. I never read that kind of thing on > the Linux groups. What in the quoted text says that Linux or FreeBSD is harder or easier than DOS or Windows? What says that FreeBSD is difficult? Why respond to an article by making completely irrelevant statements? > >What does "multi-user" mean? Is a mail hub a > >"multi-user" machine? Is a terminal server a "multi-user" machine? Is > >a router or a gateway a "multi-user" machine? Is a database server a > >"multi-user" machine? Is a firewall a "multi-user" machine? Is a USENET > >news server a "multi-user" machine? Is a WWW server a "multi-user" > >machine? Is an FTP server a "multi-user" machine? Is a LAN or a WAN a > >"multi-user" machine? Is a DNS server a "multi-user" machine? Are any > >of these "multi-user" machines? Are there getting to be fewer of them? > > All these (I think) are just as likely to be running on DOS/Windows networks, > so do not show that Unix is inherently more difficult than its rivals. Did the article say anything about whether or not "Unix is inherently more difficult than its rivals"? No, it did not. The issue was whether or not there is such an "animal" as a "unix install & admin" any more and whether or not "gurus" are a dying breed. I have not seen anyone saying that "Unix is inherently more difficult than its rivals" - probably because that is a vacuous statement. Larry