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From: Terry Lambert <terry@cs.weber.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd,comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Put the Cannons Away: Vote YES on newsgroup reformation.
Date: 15 Feb 1995 04:37:53 GMT
Organization: Utah Valley State College, Orem, Utah
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kaleb@x.org (Kaleb KEITHLEY) wrote:
] >Why even observe the trappings of democracy your "Cabal" supposedly
] >subverts?
]
] Yeah it's a farce, so what? Is there a constructive suggestion buried
] in code somewhere in your post or is this just more rhetoric?
Yes, there is the question of why follow rules which you yourself
call farcical.
Reconstructed, this is "why don't you *not* follow rules you
consider farcical" -- a constructive (I think) suggestion that
you resort to civil disobedience.
] Lots of people keep trying to turn this into a debate about whether
] FreeBSD, NetBSD, BSD/OS, and 386BSD have a legal right to call themselves
] UNIX. That's not what this is about at all. It's about getting groups in
] Usenet for them. So get past whether they're really UNIX or not. Get past
] the fact that the only opening in the Usenet name space has the word UNIX
] in it. It also has BSD in it, and these operating systems, UNIX or not,
] are undeniably derived from BSD. If that's not true, then ask yourself
] why do their names even have BSD in them.
OK, since I'm one of the people who thinks this is important:
Do you think Novell would be required under "Due Dilligence" to
pursue redress against Usenet news providers infringement on its
UNIX trademark once undeniably informed of said infringement?
Say by you sending Novell General Counsel a registered letter?
I think that they would be required to pursue it or lose rights
to their trademark.
I'm willing to pay the postage to allow you to inform Novell in
writing by registered mail (return receipt requested) of the
existing news group names, the software that they refer to, and
the current outstanding call for votes to instantiate a news
group claiming derivation of BSD from UNIX (ie: a claim of
dilution of trademark).
I suspect that if push came to shove, Novell would either grant
license or issue cease and desist letters, similar to those sent
to Jordan Hubbard and others who were distributing 386BSD derived
code. Which would actually happen would depend on whether they
felt their trademark was being diluted.
At the very least, we'd solve this thing in a hurry. Either they
will allow it (and I'll shut up) or they will deny it (and "The
Usenet Cabal" will at least shut up or at most be doing some
hasty renaming).
In the end, news group naming is controlled by UUNET, NetCOM, PSI,
and other backbone providers deciding what they will and won't
propagate.
Send the letter and tell me how much and where to send your money
order to pay bay your postage.
Terry Lambert
terry@cs.weber.edu
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.