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From: peter@bonkers.taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: IDE bad?  was Re: List of recommended hardware components
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Message-ID: <D3L3KM.FIJ@bonkers.taronga.com>
References: <3g890k$cbl@ionews.io.org> <3gm6rh$moc@newsflash.concordia.ca> <D3AvMr.JL0@bonkers.taronga.com> <mreg.137.00270D6C@panix.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:12:21 GMT
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In article <mreg.137.00270D6C@panix.com>,
Mitchell Regenbogen <mreg@panix.com> wrote:
>I'm not saying run out and buy Conner, but the idea that IDE is "WORSE than 
>MFM or RLL" is ludicrous.

IDE supports two devices, but only one reliably. You can't reliably have
more than one IDE controller in a machine. And it *emulates* a programming
interface for MFM. MFM supports 2 drives reliably. There have been 4 drive
PC controllers. SMS made one that supported 4 drives and any of them could
have been either MFM or ESDI.

>IDE was the basis of a virtual revolution in the 
>hard drive industry, bringing larger, faster, easier to connect hard drives to 
>millions of computer users.

No, IDE was the basis of a virtual revolution because it was cheap. Even ESDI
still supports larger drives than plain IDE, and EIDE is kind of soggy and
hard to light. And all the problems with "well this drive won't work as a
slave with that drive but it's a fine master" make your easier to connect
suggestion ludicrous.

>And it was and is certainly more "interoperable" 
>than SCSI or ESDI.

I've got a system that I've had:

	One MFM controller.
	One MFM and one ESDI controller.
	2 ESDI controllers.
	One ESDI and one SCSI.
and finally
	Two SCSI controllers.

With drives from an old 70MB Miniscribe MFM through a 380MB Maxtor ESDI to
the current Quantum 1.8G drive. With IDE you can have:

	One IDE controller.
	Two drives. Maybe.

That's *really* great interoperability.

IDE was a kludge Conner made up so they could sell their SCSI drives to
people who didn't want to deal with the appalling lack of support in PC
BIOSes for anything but MFM drives. As a result they made that lack of
support self-perpetuating. Way to go, guys.