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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.misc:5093 comp.os.linux.misc:34113 comp.os.os2.advocacy:76221 Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!bonkers.taronga.com!peter From: peter@bonkers.taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Subject: Re: Linux thoroughly insulted by Infoworld! Organization: Taronga Park BBS Message-ID: <D32Iq0.7ty@bonkers.taronga.com> References: <950116203411@lambada> <3g3pbt$13a@nkosi.well.com> <D30Kyy.695@bonkers.taronga.com> <3g9pfp$9al@nkosi.well.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 14:25:12 GMT Lines: 34 In article <3g9pfp$9al@nkosi.well.com>, Henry Hwong <henryh@well.sf.ca.us> wrote: >Now, I guess my experience in classes has been a little different. The >classes we send our client people are taught by people who know what they >are talking about. I've run into precisely one class like that outside of Usenix. The rest have been taught by people who are "certified", yes, but sofar as I can tell that paper only certified that they were familiar with the class material. As soon as you step outside the script they're lost. They might as well be videotaped. Have you audited the classes you're sending people to? Perhaps sending in a ringer or two would be a good idea... judging by student ratings doesn't count. If the students knew enough to really judge how well the instructor covered the subject they wouldn't need to be taking the class in the first place. >And who says you need Stevens or Allman to teach classes? I used them as examples because I took some good classes from then at Usenix. The other decent class I had was from a contractor that had worked on OSF/1 at DEC. Based on my own experiences, then, the only people I've found who've been able to give good classes have been from people who weren't primarily in the business of teaching. Why do you think universities expect professors to do research? >If that were the case, then all schools should be closed >and universities shut down -- we don't have enough "experts" to teach. Universities expect professors to be experts. In schools, the teachers are far ahead of their students. Businesses who give these adult education classes and professional training, though, don't seem to have the same standards.