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From: jkh@violet.berkeley.edu (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: OpenBSD.  PLEASE PLEASE!
Date: 24 Jan 1995 17:44:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <D2wA13.JEr@indirect.com>, Barnacle Wes <wes@indirect.com> wrote:
>I have an idea: if there are really that many people interested in "OpenBSD",
>why don't they get togehter and form an OpenBSD core team? They could sup
>FreeBSD-current and NetBSD-current, and regularly produce OpenBSD-current
>for supping for those who think this is important.  The goal of the OpenBSD
>team would, of course, be to support all applications, utilities, and
>drivers supported by the union of {Free,Net}BSD.  At the same time, they
>could stop sniveling at the {Free,Net}BSD core teams to merge.  Enough!
>Even if you don't have a life of your own, stop trying to use someone
>else's!

Well.  I floated this EXACT SAME idea at USENIX this year, and you'd be
amazed at the number of people who sort of turned pale and shut up when
I suggested that maybe they would like to do it? :-)

Yes, there is nothing in the world to stop all the various dissenters, whiners
and bible thumping "there must be only one!" folk who have cried out for the
merge over the last 2 years from getting together and actually doing
something constructive like this.  Even if they didn't do their own releases
and called themselves `OpenBSD', they could still take the role of an
impartial 3rd party who's job it was to get changes brought across between
the two.  I'd certainly be willing to work with such a group.

But you see, all of that is WORK, and most of the merge proponents would
rather just sit in their armchairs and complain! :-)

						Jordan