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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.netspace.net.au!serval.net.wsu.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!oracle.pnl.gov!osi-east2.es.net!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!uunet.ca!uunet.ca!fw.novatel.ca!sidney.novatel.ca!hpeyerl From: hpeyerl@sidney.novatel.ca (Herb Peyerl) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.bugs Subject: Re: Anyone having tty00 access problems in NetBSD-.0 Date: 14 Jan 1995 18:01:42 GMT Organization: NovAtel Communications Ltd. Lines: 17 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <3f93i6$adj@fw.novatel.ca> References: <3ei8ap$25v@ebony.woods.com> <3f0vm2$3rn@zip.eecs.umich.edu> <3f1tp8$mdm@news.csus.edu> <3f4f9g$ime@ivory.lm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sidney.novatel.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Peter Berger (peterb@telerama.lm.com) wrote: : Anyone on the respective BSD teams want to explain why they ship their : products this way? It seems to me that it would be more reasonable to : make those who want to have dialins -remove- the local, than make us : SLIP/PPP cluebags discover it by bugging the net at large. Because then there'd be a billion people asking why their modems don't disconnect properly when someone logs out. Then they'd ask why the system is distributed with the 'local' flag in it and why can't the SLIP/PPP cluebags just add the flag? [I don't represent *either* of the *BSD's] hpeyerl@novatel.ca | NovAtel Communications Ltd. hpeyerl@beer.org | <nothing I say matters anyway> "I can fix anything with duct tape, vice grips, and a decent Makefile"