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Xref: sserve comp.unix.aix:49247 comp.unix.bsd:15702 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:7866 comp.unix.solaris:28869 comp.unix.unixware:15648 Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!ames!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!bry From: bry@netcom.com (Bryan Althaus) Subject: Re: Unix for PC Message-ID: <bryD0rLL2.8AL@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.unixware Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3bvmo1$hgr@cascade.pnw.net> <D0Ex7E.2nv@ssbunews.ih.att.com> <3c4rhh$54a@bantu.Provo.Novell.COM> <rbbrownD0I2uB.HID@netcom.com> <D0JyKq.1r5@telly.on.ca> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 19:46:14 GMT Lines: 50 Evan Leibovitch (evan@telly.on.ca) wrote: : I just called Merisel (one of the few distributors who carries both Sun : and Novell) for some comparison pricing. : As of *today*, the wholesale cost of the Solaris 2.1 uniprocessor desktop : is exactly 48.3% more expensive than the combination of UnixWare Personal : Edition, SDK and NFS. Add C2 Auditing and UnixWare is still less. Why Solaris 2.1? Solaris 2.4 is the current shipping product. It retails for $450 2-user license with a complete system ready to go. : UnixWare also allows the bare-bones PE to turn Intel hardware into a : capable X terminal for 31% of the cost of Solaris' desktop. What is : one person's "woeful" incompleteness is another person's flexibility : of not being forced to buy everything for a minimal configuration. : Debates about bundling-versus-unbundling invariably degenerate into : religious arguments. Try using UnixWare in a non UnixWare environment with say Sun's. Try bringing up some applications on SunOS or Solaris and you will see alot won't since this font is missing or that. When I ran UnixWare I could never get SunOS's debugger to come up on UnixWare as well as alot of other programs. Switching to solaris 2.4 solved that. : I agree with the comment about NIS, though. Wasn't it included in the : 1.1.2 update whether you had NFS installed or not? Little late in the game no? Most consider NIS important enough not to have to wait 1 1/2 years for it. : >And the two-user Solaris is complete. Period. : Unless you want the driver development kit; bundled with the UnixWare : SDK, $300 more for Solaris. While the driver stuff is certainly : not something that everyone wants, "complete...period" is clearly : incorrect because there *is* some unbundling. Sun's just drawn the : line at a different spot. This is silly. If a Solaris person was to suggest that UnixWare wasn't complete because it didn't come with a DDK, you Evan would say your average user could care less. Funny you consider a DDK shipping with UnixWare more important that say NIS(+) or NFS. -- Regards, Bryan Althaus bryan@krf.com