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From: corey@hotrod.alph.att.com ()
Subject: Re: Unix for PC
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 20:15:01 GMT
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In article <3c8i58$5uj@crl9.crl.com>,
J. Heather Patrick <jpatrick@crl.com> wrote:
>In article <D0I0Jq.991@ssbunews.ih.att.com>,
>55433-jack fijolek(hhall) <jack1@iexist.flw.att.com> wrote:
>>
>>In article <3c5cos$bhb@crl7.crl.com>, jpatrick@crl.com (J. Heather Patrick) writes:
>>|> 
>>|> Do you think 10 reasons comprises "more capable", or should I go on?
>>|> 
>>|>
>>Go on because a lot of this disappears in UW2.0 (ie. X env).
>
>Glad to hear it. Although I'll believe it when I see it :-)
>
>>UW did a nice layered virtual machine for X, and X ain't nice.
>
>What do you mean in this case by "virtual machine for X"?
>
>I shall now, by popular demand, elucidate upon the points I made, which
>should already be clear to people who have used both unixware and solaris.
>
>THe following comparison pertains to:
>   Solaris 2.4
>   Unixware 1.1 (cause we ain't got no 2.0)
>
>Better NFS:
>   the nfs daemon for solaris is multithreaded
>   (+ more reasons that I dont remember, but a sun engineer could
>     probably point out)

	I'm sure they could!

>
>More full set of code libraries:
>   As I pointed out in email to someone, solaris has the goodies like
>    strcasecmp().  UW1.1 does not.

	Gee! maybe you should have looked in /usr/ucbinclude
	on a UW system before you made this statement.

>
>Better X server:
>   R5 based. REAL implementation of standard R5, including 16-bit fonts.
>       (there is an optional package called metrolink that claims
>         to provide R5 for unixware. no MITSHM. no 16-bit-fonts)
>   MITSHM extension.
>   DPS (Adobe-DPS-Extension, AND DPSExtension)
>   Multi-Buffering
>   MIT_SUNDRY_NONSTANDARD
>   X3D-PEX
>   XimputExtension
>   XTEST

	Except for the PEX extension this looks just like the output
	I get from xdpyinfo on a UW machine.

>
>Better X server environment:
>  A real olwm. the pseudo-olwm with unixware 1.1 is broken. i dont
>  remember how right now, sorry.

	Oh well! UW ships a "REAL" mwm and Motif development kit
	with their system. Sun is still shipping OLIT and charging
	$295.00 for a Motif developers kit (single user license).
>
>  A real xterm. The "xterm" with unixware is a very sad joke.

	Its hardly as sad as you say, and BTW, if you REALLY must
	have the REAL xterm you can just download it and compile
	it yourself. OH! and BTW, you can compile it on the c
	compiler that comes in the $69.00 SDK.

	Whats Sun getting for their SDK today? Lets see, the SunExpress
	catalog says the SPARCworks Professional single user license
	is $995.00. OH! but don't forget your corporate discount!
>
>  More stuff I dont remember right now, but other users of both systems
>  should be able to fill in.

	Well lets hope that they finally got their act together. After
	slow-aris 2.2 and extemely slow-aris 2.3 they had better 
	get it right. Lets not even mention the numerous patches
	that we had to install on our 2.3 systems just to make them
	usable.
>
>Working man pages:
>   Source for man pages is EXTRA in uw1.1?? Come ON. And the
>   apropos/whatis stuff is useless without it.

	HMMMM!!! UW comes with the finger-tip library that has	
	search capabilities. How much does Sun get for AnswerBook
	these days???
>
>   Plus, the solaris stuff uses the cache generated by catman -w
>   to speed up "man  xx" serach times
>
>I apologise for my mistake on the compiler issue.
>
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