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From: shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix)
Subject: Re: LINUX SUCKS!!!!
Organization: HNN UNIX Network
Message-ID: <1994Oct30.202117.19741@escape.widomaker.com>
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 20:21:17 GMT
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se@FileServ1.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) writes:

>In article <1994Oct28.041604.589@escape.widomaker.com>, shendrix@escape.widomaker.com (Shannon Hendrix) writes:
>|> If it does say BSD... it's not Linux!  And...
>|> 
>|> * it will crash more and worse
>|> * it's file systems will be slower
>|> * it will have less support
>|> * it will have you as a user

I have been told already I should have put smiley's all around that.  It
was just a parody of the guy's post.  It was never meant to be taken
seriously and I'm sorry if you took it that way.  When I looked at the
post and my reply it was obvious to me that it was a parody and didn't
think I needed to add smiley's.

>Well, seems you ignore the fact, that 
>one of the biggest FTP-Archives in the 
>INTERNET runs a free BSD, with uptimes 
>of several months between shutdowns, that
>are only required to allow installing 
>another SCSI controller ... (it has got
>its fourth SCSI controllers recently).

>The filesystem is one of the parts, where 
>BSD is far more advanced than Linux, in 
>both speed and robustness (nobody in their
>right mind would use the option to switch 
>off synchronous metadata updates under BSD,
>since this might void your filesystem in 
>case of a crash, as is the default under
>Linux).

I have to reply to this... I ran BSD for awhile and it's filesystem was
slower by a good margin that Linux.  Most of the people I know that have
run both say the same.  Not always much difference but it's noticeable.

My system has crashed many times as a result of tinkering and the area's
frequent power failures.  I don't lose data.  I know there are some
technical points regarding ext2fs that need improvement but in actual
practise it's quite solid.

I keep hearing that ext2fs is not robust.  Fine.  Given the fact that it
has been rock solid for me and many others for a long, long time I can't
wait till it does get robust because then it'll be really great.

>If you want to discuss filesystem features
>and pros and cons, feel free to do so. But 
>please first try to understand what the BSD 
>FFS does to combine performance, reliability
>and economy of disk space use (ie. fragments).

From what I know of ext2fs it has much the same goals and I know from
experience that it does a real good job meeting them.

>Please get your facts right before posting, 
>since there might be readers of these 
>newsgroups who might be lead to believe
>the nonsense you wrote ...

Like I said, I should have made it more obvious that I was doing a
parody of the post.

You need to get your facts straight about ext2fs.  You imply it is
not reliable and that is far from true.
-- 
csh
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