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From: kaleb@fedora.x.org (Kaleb KEITHLEY)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: How UTTERLY Amazing! (Was Re: FreeBSD vs NetBSD)
Date: 17 Oct 94 01:35:09 GMT
Organization: Save the Planet
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jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes:
>Kaleb KEITHLEY (kaleb@fedora.x.org) wrote:
>: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes:

>: >: And what about the vapourous 386BSD-1.0? Shouldn't that also be renamed?
>: >: If we follow the analogy, wouldn't it be called "BSD DOS 1.0" ? ;-)
>: >:
>: >	OK, I'll bite.

>: >	Yes, I'll agree with this.

>: >	Bill and Lynn have just as much at stake here as they
>: >	next developer.   

>: What do they have at stake?
>:
>	The most important thing a programmer has -- his reputation.

Too late for that.

>: Are they actually shipping 1.0 yet or are
>: they still engaged in mail fraud? 
>:
>	Do you mean have I stopped beating my wife yet?

Well, as long as you brought it up -- have you?

>	Please be more careful in your wording of questions.

There was nothing wrong with the way I worded my question.

>	Shipping of 1.0 will begin soon.  I will post a follow-up
>	when I get time.

You promised an announcement for this weekend. This weekend is
nearly over. If you spent less time babbling like an idiot you
might have found time to post more lies^H^H^H^Habout vaporware
that has come to be known as 386BSD 1.0.

>	Your question on mail fraud is, of course, a silly
>	proposition....

What do you call it when you advertise something you can't deliver?

>	386bsd R1.0 will ship!!!

When!

>: They've been advertising in Dr. Dobbs
>: for nigh on six months now. Has anyone ordered a disk?
>:
>	YEs, I personally know of at least 8 people who have
>	ordered the diskettes.

Eight? Eight whole orders? Do you mean to tell me that in all the
world there are only eight fools?

>: Has anyone who
>: has ordered a disk received it? 
>:
>	NO, no one has received a CD-ROM.... more on this later.

Oh, do tell.

>: I know, you can't be bothered with the
>: details. Ignore that man behind the curtain.
>:
>	Is this a retorical statement?

Is this a rhetorical answer?

>: >	Sure, I've heard tell of other OSs
>: >	called Toy OSs, but does this stand to warrent that 
>: >	possibly 386bsd R1.0 could be a "Toy OS".

>: >	Maybe!

>: Just tell us when we'll be able to buy the "Toy OS". Otherwise shut up!
>:
>	YOu can but it right now.... this is a silly statement.

No, I can't.

>: >	This call out, it's anybodys (sp?) game.
>: >	So let's line up the chip and give this a go 
>: >	by throwing the dice against the wall.

>: Not even my technobabble parser can grok this. Methinks it might be
>: geek code for "let's go bench racing." Am I close? If that's what
>: this means, then put up or shut up. Show up with a 386BSD 1.0 CD-ROM
>:
>	NO, none of the above....
>	It's gambleing talk.... and part british...

In Britain, it's spelled vapourware.

>	"lets give it a go"..... let's try this out.

Right, so it is bench racing.

>	"throwing the dice" is the last step in the game 
>	of craps.

Really. Do you have any other pearls of wisdom you'd like to share
with us? Wait, let me get my pencil so I can write 'em down.

>: >	Bottom Line, A rat's ass won't matter cause it's
>: >	going to be the silent developers 

>: Yup, both of them.
>:
>	Menial thinking.

>: >	that will 
>: >	make the difference here,,, those working on 
>: >	tommorrows tecnology, 

>: Are you saying that 386BSD 1.0 is tommorrows technology, and not just
>: another tired old rehash of the Net/2 code?
>:
>	YEs, that's exactly what I'm saying....

>: >	not those that are working
>: >	on a rehash of VI (sorry elvis).

>: Who might that be?
>:
>	The game will tell.

I agree with Jordan, reduce the dosage Jesse, you're taking way too
much.