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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msuinfo!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!xmission!u.cc.utah.edu!cs.weber.edu!terry From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Nailed down to 386bsd or linux, now which one? Date: 13 Oct 1994 20:28:39 GMT Organization: Weber State University, Ogden, UT Lines: 60 Message-ID: <37k59n$14m@u.cc.utah.edu> References: <jmonroyCx10D8.3yu@netcom.com> <378hjr$c4@knobel.gun.de> <jmonroyCxG277.1ML@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.weber.edu In article <jmonroyCxG277.1ML@netcom.com> jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes: ] Andreas Klemm (andreas@knobel.gun.de) wrote: ] : Jesus Monroy Jr (jmonroy@netcom.com) wrote: ] : : ] : : Again, no benchmarks (or stats) are available for ] : : any of the above. Numbers generated depend heavily ] : : on equipment used and application (program) design. [ ... benchmarks from a German magazine ... ] ] Worthless benchmarks and you know it. ] I could publish daily reports on how fast 386bsd ] is in comparision to say, Novell servers.... doen't ] prove diddly... ] ] At best the magazine you're quoting says that ] "when they did the test, with their machines ] under thier conditions.... they got xYZ results." I know of no benchmarks which are not themselves similar statements. What benchmarks (since it was your original demand that prompted Andreas' posting) would *you* find acceptable? Please define them in terms of what they do rather than the results you'd like to see them produce (ie: "benchmarks showing 386BSD 1.0 as better than all other OS's" is an illegal condition). ] : BSD is a standard. So there's a lot of documentation around in ] : a very good quality. ] ] If you think a bunch of contorted thirty year old ] man pages based on outdated code is documentation, ] you must be kidding. I don't speak for all of us, of course, but many of us are contorted thirty year old men, so this is appropriate documentation. Seriously, things like the online documentation on NeXT and Solaris and UnixWare suck just as badly and are frequently less usable. ] : Manual pages are in general more complete and more up to ] : date than in the rapidely changing Linux environment. ] : ] I guess your planning on using stone knives ] and bear skin clothing for a while. You haven't pointed at better tools, only criticised existing ones. This is not constructive. What existing systems do you consider to be above the quality level of "stone knives and bear skin clothing"? Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.