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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!uunet!mcsun!Germany.EU.net!unido!hcshh!hm From: hm@hcshh.hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: selling 386BSD (was Re: 386BSD on CD-ROM?) Message-ID: <1560@hcshh.hcs.de> Date: 15 Aug 92 17:21:45 GMT References: <1992Aug11.190949.1496@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> <1992Aug12.100430.3467@Urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> <1557@hcshh.hcs.de> <1848@adagio.UUCP> Organization: HCS GmbH, Hamburg, Europe Lines: 47 In <1848@adagio.UUCP> grog@adagio.UUCP (Greg Lehey) writes: >In article <1557@hcshh.hcs.de> hm@hcshh.hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) writes: >>In <1992Aug12.100430.3467@Urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies) writes: >> >>i can understand chris. yesterday i saw an ad in the german "unix magazin", >>where a company named "tuttle design" sells 386bsd 0.1 on tape for 399,- DM, >>which is about 250 US$. they say in the ad, that a contribution to bill jolitz >>is contained in this price.... >> >Well, DM 399 sounds rather high, but don't forget that people have to >make a living as well. As soon as you start advertising the stuff, you >*have* to charge money just to make ends meet. The smallest ad in UNIX >Magazin costs over DM 600; last time we put an ad in there, it led to >about 3 orders. And we sell our tapes for DM 200 - when you add in the >cost of the tape, we lost money on the deal. We came to the conclusion >that we should stop advertising. good, until now i thought, 386bsd is NOT something to earn money from ... if the jolitz's intention was to do so, they could went the BSDI way, but they didn't! 2nd, where is the need to advertize for something which one can get for FREE everywhere ? it's just for getting (too much) money from those poor souls without usenet/internet access .... >As you see, nobody's making much money. The charge is not for the >software, just for the handling. a tape costs 50,- dm or 25$ in single quantities, so you count 350,- dm for not making money ??? >[...] If you want 386bsd from me, you can call us up >and get it via uucp for nothing. this was the intention of this all, wasn't it ?? >The FSF charges $200 for their tapes, by the way. i know, and this is well invested money, same applies to 386bsd, if the jolitz's would carge some money for 386bsd, it would be well invested too ! hellmuth -- hellmuth michaelis HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH hamburg, europe hm@hcshh.hcs.de tel: +49/40/55903-170 fax: +49/40/5591486